I know what was intended and not intended because I was a modder before a player...
A lot of modders on ppmsite know that the plane repair bug comes from half removed/implemented code in the game engine, thus it's a bug.
You are abusing that code, simple as that.
A lot of the time modders use these half implemented features/bugs to add new features into the game. Which can be 'buggy' at times, but that doesn't stop them from trying.
That's how we know. There are people currently hacking and decompiling game code on the ares project to add new features into the game code, go ask them.
Fixing planes on a depot- bannable?
Started by Seke, Feb 17 2012 07:20 PM
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#102
Posted 22 February 2012 - 01:34 PM
I know what was intended and not intended because I was a modder before a player...
A lot of modders on ppmsite know that the plane repair bug comes from half removed/implemented code in the game engine, thus it's a bug.
You are abusing that code, simple as that.
A lot of the time modders use these half implemented features/bugs to add new features into the game. Which can be 'buggy' at times, but that doesn't stop them from trying.
That's how we know. There are people currently hacking and decompiling game code on the ares project to add new features into the game code, go ask them.
and so what do they say about alting buildings with tanks?
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Posted 22 February 2012 - 04:39 PM
Regarding the use of the ALT key, page 30 of the RA2 Manual says:
"Forces a unit to drive/walk over an area or to run over a unit."
It doesn't say "land on or fly onto a structure".
But of course you can argue that the manual also doesn't say that it's against the rules to do so. This is one of those things (like way-point engi'ing) where only Olaf can decide weather it's bannable, ok to do, or leave it undecided for now.
Edited by Fireworks, 22 February 2012 - 05:40 PM.
#105
Posted 22 February 2012 - 04:43 PM
Regarding the use of the ALT key, page 30 of the RA2 Manual says:
"Forces a unit to drive/walk over an area or to run over a unit."
It doesn't say "land on or fly onto a structure".
But of course you can argue that the manual also doesn't say that it's against the rules to do so This is one of those things (like way-point engi'ing) where only Olaf can decide weather it's bannable, ok to do, or leave it undecided for now.
I dont think you can compare it to waypoint engiing. That is a perfectly normal part of the game, albeit very lame?
#107
Posted 22 February 2012 - 05:14 PM
Because otherwise it'd have shown the enter cursor, like it does when you try to repair a ship or tank.What makes it sound like a glitch? I would admit that fixing a plane on a naval shipyard doesn't make sense and should be considered a bug, but as for fixing a plane on a depot, it seems logical to me.
#108
Posted 22 February 2012 - 05:17 PM
Because otherwise it'd have shown the enter cursor, like it does when you try to repair a ship or tank.
I could argue same thing about moving a tank onto a war factory though? It attacks the war factory but you don't see it showing an "attack" cursor. So, are you deeming fixing planes as bannable or not? I will follow the rules either way; I just want clarification.
#109
Posted 22 February 2012 - 05:56 PM
Yes, and?I could argue same thing about moving a tank onto a war factory though?
No, it doesn't attack the war factory.It attacks the war factory but you don't see it showing an "attack" cursor. clarification.
The rules say it's a glitch, so to me it looks like it should be bannable.So, are you deeming fixing planes as bannable or not? I will follow the rules either way; I just want
#111
Posted 22 February 2012 - 07:41 PM
Way-point engi is also a bug... it takes a certain method to do it and gives the user an advantage due to abusing a bug.
If it was fair play you could just way point an engineer into the flak/ifv and into enemy building without any actions taken in-between to make it functional.
If it was fair play you could just way point an engineer into the flak/ifv and into enemy building without any actions taken in-between to make it functional.
#112
Posted 22 February 2012 - 11:36 PM
If it was fair play you could just way point an engineer into the flak/ifv and into enemy building without any actions taken in-between to make it functional.
I thought that is what you done anyway. I have never attempted to do it.
#115
Posted 25 February 2012 - 05:59 PM
Exploitation of bugs . Bug exploitation is considered cheating in XCL. Note if you are losing a game and an error occurs that causes the game to be washed or a loss to the other player. You will be expected to give a win to the other player. Failure to so may result in you being investigated and reset.Where?
#116
Posted 25 February 2012 - 11:46 PM
Exploitation of bugs . Bug exploitation is considered cheating in XCL. Note if you are losing a game and an error occurs that causes the game to be washed or a loss to the other player. You will be expected to give a win to the other player. Failure to so may result in you being investigated and reset.
We were debating about whether or not it was a bug though.
#120
Posted 26 February 2012 - 07:24 PM
Exploitation of bugs . Bug exploitation is considered cheating in XCL. Note if you are losing a game and an error occurs that causes the game to be washed or a loss to the other player. You will be expected to give a win to the other player. Failure to so may result in you being investigated and reset.
#121
Posted 26 February 2012 - 08:14 PM
All bugs and abuses of the game code does not give you the same advantage. For instance self-spying is almost unbeatable while reparing a plane on service depot/naval yard is barely to any real help. Therefore all bugs should not be treated the same. As for this perticular exploiot (that probobly was not an intended part of game) I think should not be a bannable offense. Maybe a list of what exploits are ok and which ones is not ok should be made and posted on the forums by an admin?
One might argue that all bugs are bannable offences but are they really? I know there is an exploit that makes the game lag, and ive never heard this is against the rules, despite it being more usefull then the repair plane exploit.
And i dont agree that mason should give you a free-win for this... He is an honest player that deserves his win.
One might argue that all bugs are bannable offences but are they really? I know there is an exploit that makes the game lag, and ive never heard this is against the rules, despite it being more usefull then the repair plane exploit.
And i dont agree that mason should give you a free-win for this... He is an honest player that deserves his win.
Edited by Drasten, 26 February 2012 - 08:16 PM.
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