I was playing Tourney today on DEFCON 6 map. My opponent was a soviet team I was allied team. The game progressed and developed. My opponent moved a MCV to get better ore mining. I engi'd the MCV took it to my base. Developed the soviet stuff in my base to include cloning vat. I cranked out a couple of Tanyas (4) (and could have made plenty more). At that point I thought about cloning them for money but did NOT....as I wasn't sure about it being OK...
..COULD I HAVE DONE THIS LEGALLY IN TOURNEY (qm) PLAY?
as it turned out, it was a long game and I became short on cash....and ended up surrendering. Cloning Tanya I would easily have won at the point it occurred.
What is the XWIS policy on cloning?
In ra2 is Tanya Cloning for Money Legal in Tourney?
Started by RA2Forum, Jun 08 2007 09:39 PM
14 replies to this topic
#6
Posted 08 June 2007 - 10:50 PM
From Knit...
I read thru this thread. If I am reading it correctly... isn't "t00much4u" (the admin chief) saying that it is OK to sell units in the cloning vat? He also said it is in the Yuri MANUAL AND ALSO THIS IS NOT A bug. Having this money making ability is the consequence of getting both the sov and allied MCV.
BUT still, Would someone at XWIS admin go out on a limb and make a policy "declaration" statement about it? I am getting a mixed message on this matter.
No. Example: http://xwis.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=96422
I read thru this thread. If I am reading it correctly... isn't "t00much4u" (the admin chief) saying that it is OK to sell units in the cloning vat? He also said it is in the Yuri MANUAL AND ALSO THIS IS NOT A bug. Having this money making ability is the consequence of getting both the sov and allied MCV.
BUT still, Would someone at XWIS admin go out on a limb and make a policy "declaration" statement about it? I am getting a mixed message on this matter.
#10
Posted 09 June 2007 - 02:05 AM
Because it's basically a 'free money' generator.
i won't argue with you olaf, seeing how you run the server and makes the rules, i just don't find it to be a bug because
1.) it's never used because you need soviets and allieds to do it, and who get both MCV in a qm
2.) Westwood wouldn't have let you put units in vat....even though it wasn't meant for tanya's and for the units yuri takes over.
but like i said your word stands.
#11
Posted 09 June 2007 - 12:02 PM
From Olaf
Does that settle "it " then??
Olaf's statement leads one to believe that...........
THOU SHALT NOT CLONE FOR MONEY IN RA2 TOURNAMENT PLAY
Does that about sum it up for this thread?
Because it's basically a 'free money' generator.
Does that settle "it " then??
Olaf's statement leads one to believe that...........
THOU SHALT NOT CLONE FOR MONEY IN RA2 TOURNAMENT PLAY
Does that about sum it up for this thread?
#13
Posted 09 June 2007 - 01:35 PM
from zzattack:
zzattack you are just a "nobody" member/player like me.
Methinks, however, I will listen to what 'Olaf van der Spek' has to say when it comes to the XWIS rules and policy regarding ra2.
You know what RA2forum how about you quit shamelessly engi-ing everyone you play.
Clonning sucks, but it's like alting you're not gonna get prosecuted for it
zzattack you are just a "nobody" member/player like me.
Methinks, however, I will listen to what 'Olaf van der Spek' has to say when it comes to the XWIS rules and policy regarding ra2.
#14
Posted 09 June 2007 - 03:56 PM
No it does not.From Olaf
Does that settle "it " then??
Olaf's statement leads one to believe that...........
THOU SHALT NOT CLONE FOR MONEY IN RA2 TOURNAMENT PLAY
Does that about sum it up for this thread?
ST does not consider it a cheat. That statement means that you can do it.
#15
Posted 09 June 2007 - 04:51 PM
t00much4u Posted Today, 03:56 PM
QUOTE(RA2Forum @ Jun 9 2007, 01:02 PM)
From Olaf
Does that settle "it " then??
Olaf's statement leads one to believe that...........
THOU SHALT NOT CLONE FOR MONEY IN RA2 TOURNAMENT PLAY
Does that about sum it up for this thread?
No it does not.
ST does not consider it a cheat. That statement means that you can do it.
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t00much4u
I really like your stance on this issue. To me, it requires some 'doing' to capture an opponents MCV in 'qm play'. And then, develope all the alernate structures/units to compliment your own units. (To include being able to clone generate Tanya/Spys for cash).
I really think it enhances the game . And, it is not an easy feat during most games so it is a rarity. But if your opponent affords you the opportunity by making a dash for an ore field with an MCV (as was my case) then you should be allowed to exploit to the fullest your opponents efforts. Afterall he's trying to shut you out of an ore field!!
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It just seems to me that Olaf might have a different take on the matter. But if you say it's OK to clone/sell Tanyas for cash I'm OK with that..
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