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#1 Pike28

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Posted 15 July 2006 - 03:28 PM

Clear money hack - he even admitted it during the match.

Obviously the money cheat is switched off between approx. frames 5000 - 10000, but before and after his account gets magically filled up regurlarly - despite of not earning any ore.

No way the 6 oil rigs generate that much money....

Pls. reset & ban...

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#2 t00much4u

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Posted 15 July 2006 - 04:47 PM

$not proven$

#3 Pike28

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Posted 15 July 2006 - 06:48 PM

Sorry, I dont agree.

I have prepared 2 screenshots of the replay:

In frame 4226, the player has 710 units
In frame 4489, the player has 1710 units

1) He had no ore refinery left (apart from the one on the middle island which is useless)
2) No way 6 oil rigs generate that much money
3) He has not sold buildings

This goes on and on - PLS DO WATCH THE REPLAY....

If you still call this not proven pls can you provide an explaination how you can retrieve that much cash in so little time without ore refiney ?

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Edited by Pike28, 15 July 2006 - 06:55 PM.


#4 t00much4u

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Posted 15 July 2006 - 08:12 PM

1. I did watch the replay and strongly resent your accusation :dry:
2. It is possible.
3. He could also have stopped any units he was building.
4. If you wish I can get a second opinion for you.

#5 Pike28

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Posted 15 July 2006 - 09:05 PM

Pls. do not take it as a criticism (you are doing a great job), but in this particular case I would prefer to have a second opinion.

My comments are:

1. Whilst he could have stopped building units once or twice to get some money back, he cant do that continously again and again.

2. During frames 5000 - 10000 he doesnt get much money in. At that time I had asked him if he was using cheats and he said yes but he would stop now (which he did for some 5000 frames). At about frame 10000 he turns money cheat on again - money comes in quickly. This is impossible without cheat.

Sorry, I strongly feel I am right on this.

Also, this guy already has a TBI against him
http://xwis.net/forums/index.php?sh...48&hl=automihai

Edited by Pike28, 15 July 2006 - 09:08 PM.


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Posted 15 July 2006 - 09:39 PM

I 100% agree with t00much4u. In the frames up to 5000, he is capturing the derricks and mining gems, you can tell when he forgets to build units/buildings as the money shoots up really quickly, you get 2000 bonus for being the first person into an oil derrick,2000 per drop of gems as`sovs. frames 5000-10000 he is continuously building units/buildings. you can see the credits fluctuating between 1-50 most of that time as a result of continuous building, each time the oil derrick pump goes down on one oil derrick he gets 50 credits. that does add up quite quickly especially when you have 6 and you stop building units/buildings. remember XGS replay isnt in real time so you may be fooled by the time scale in XGS.

I see no evidence of any money hack, sorry pike.

#7 Pike28

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Posted 15 July 2006 - 10:01 PM

OK guys.

Many thanks for providing a good explaination. I appreciate the efforts you have put into this.

Apparently I was not right.

Thanks for your time.

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Posted 16 July 2006 - 06:53 PM

2000 for being first to capture a derrick? what game you playin? If you are going to be an "expert" at least be correct.

look at frames 12,000 and up his money is jumping a hundred credits a frame. You guys are just wrong. About the money cheat and how derricks pay.

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Posted 16 July 2006 - 09:57 PM

OK, need for re-review or is this case closed?

PS: Cant seem to remember I ever got 2,000 pts for capturing an oil rig either - think it is 500 isnt it ?

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Posted 17 July 2006 - 08:47 AM

capture oil give 1000:P

#11 Pike28

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Posted 17 July 2006 - 08:53 PM

Admin decision required: Re-investigation or case closed ?

After the other comments I am not 100% convinced any longer that there is no cheat.

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Posted 17 July 2006 - 09:56 PM

The oil derricks give 1000 when captured and 20 every 100 frames, there is no evidence of a money cheat.

#13 Pike28

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Posted 17 July 2006 - 10:39 PM

I think there is !

Proven below:

He has 6 oil rigs - within 250 frames like in my example (see attached screenshots and there are many more later into the game....) he makes approx. 1000 units cash. At that time all oil rigs captured (ie no 1000 extra cash units) and he does not collect any ore. The only way to get some cash (he doesnt sell buildings either) is by the oil rigs.

According to your statement (20 cash units per 100 frames) would make 300 cash units in 250 frames (6 oil rigs * 20 cash units * 250/100) - infact he gets 1000 !!

And, in addition, this happens continously (!!!).

Guys, are you really paying enough attention to the details here ???

Edited by Pike28, 17 July 2006 - 10:41 PM.


#14 t00much4u

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Posted 18 July 2006 - 09:49 AM

remember XGS replay isnt in real time so you may be fooled by the time scale in XGS


As has already been explained, a money does not work online.

#15 Pike28

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Posted 18 July 2006 - 11:18 AM

OK. I am not convinced - if you had played him I am sure you weren´t either.

However, I may be wrong. Dont have all that detailed knowledge/information.

Suggest you close this one now....otherwise I may be tempted to post more replies :-)

Thanks !


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