I never said I thought you allowed that. There are certainly members of both of our communities who use and encourage cheating, but whether we actually allow them to cheat in our servers is a different story. You accused me of ONLY banning if you flame a moderator. I was simply pointing out that there are other things that will earn you a ban.
Ah. So let me be sure I'm understanding you here. You don't have a problem with flaming, but you do have a problem with posting cheat sites and spreading "slanderous lies" about your/BHS' projects. Well, the latter two things definitely aren't problems at our site, and you don't mind the first thing, so what does this mean?
"I have also found that community to be a horrible grouping of idiots with a few respectible members. Anyone can form their own opinion by reading their forums. Read through there and decide for yourself whether such people are capable of doing anything like this."
I was under the impression you're saying Clanwars.cc is incapable of running an official league (despite the phenomenal evidence that we are undoubtedly the best people suited for that) because of forum flaming. Which... is.... something you don't have a problem with.
Sorry, you're losing me...
Sorry, but it got old after the first week and yet it's been going on for years.
Again, big deal... it doesn't hurt anyone. Making a big deal out of some of our forum traditions (Page claims, dedicating post milestones to friends, etc) is pretty stupid...
This is NOT what I've heard.
I can absolutely make that claim. I have NEVER used a botnet. The closest I have come is stealing a bunch of bots from someone who was attacking me with them and I gave them all the self-delete command. I have NEVER used a botnet to attack anyone.
Then it seems we both have one or two misconceptions about each other.
No, and you shouldn't. I have said several times that I don't have a problem with you personally, even though you consistently attack me and my projects (with words, just so we're clear)
Unlike many people, you do manage to make coherent thought and comprehensible arguments. However, the actual leaders of CW do not fall under this category.
If by "leaders of CW" you mean the higher admins and the site owner, then you speak of what you do not know. EG those who outrank me would be Patrick/Oompah/CLAN WARS himself, and Trunks. Have a search on our forums - I challenge you to find, say, three posts from either of them in the last year which are immature/arrogant/whatever. Go on - do that and I'll never post on this subject again. Now, that covers the forums which according to you are run by immature monkeys, so surely you'll be able to succeed in that little challenge.
And again, the leagues themselves are run with complete maturity and professionalism. One does not earn an contract from EA themselves to run the official league for a mammoth release of theirs, and sponsorship of thousands of dollars' worth of prizes every month, by running a league unprofessional
Maybe you should re-read what I said. I didn't say anything about an automatic league. It's entirely possible to develop a manual league, host the reporting tools on XWIS official servers, and feed the data in the expected format to Renegade clients. If I were making such a tool (as I have planned but probably won't have time for soon), I would use a more enhanced calculation to assign ladder points to clans so that it would still be compatible with the existing Renegade client software. Think about it.
Why? I say again, it'll still be vastly inferior to what we've got. Why don't you go ahead and make that, and when you're finished and it's half as active as our league, works three-quarters as reliably, requires twice the workload, is (I'm guessing here) ran by admins with half as much skill, experience and most of all: dedication as ours, and has a quarter as much functionality, just remember I told you so.
I wouldn't even consider endorsing a league until it was ad-free, if it were up to me. I don't even really approve of the XWIS site having ads, but there's nothing I can do about it.
You speak as if the CW site is an ad-fest. It isn't. There's a small banner which takes up a very small portion of the page. You're in no way obliged to click them if you aren't interested in what they offer - although here's the catch: they're Google ads. They're related to what the site is about, and since Clanwars.cc is about clan gaming, the ads correspond to such things as companies who offer clan servers, websites and whatnot.... graphics cards, keyboards for gamers.... so as you can imagine, quite a few of our community ARE interested in what they offer.
But you still don't have to click those small, unimposing ads.
Anyway, go ahead and make this new ladder of yours. (Renegade's clan support other than Clanwars.cc has been dying since summer of last year, and in October/November when the servers were handed to XWIS it became literally non-existent, so it's good to know it only took you eight months to get this done. Sorry.... START getting this done. No, wait.... THINK ABOUT STARTING to get this done, when you have the time, of course). I can think of about twenty reasons why it'll be inferior to our current system, but hey, it won't have unimposing adverts which benefit the players, so go team.
Edited by MaidenTy1, 10 June 2006 - 12:08 PM.