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#26 fir3w0rx

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Posted 24 September 2015 - 12:06 PM

can you show me the screenshot? I'll prove something to you. Ive got 5 minutes to spare.

This one:
http://xwis.net/ra2/screenshots/7699663/

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Posted 24 September 2015 - 12:19 PM

Man, very very few people are cheating these days. Trust me.



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Posted 24 September 2015 - 01:40 PM

This one:
http://xwis.net/ra2/screenshots/7699663/


Wow, Yuri's really is a broken game.
This doesn't happen on RA2... AFAIK

#29 Seke

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Posted 24 September 2015 - 03:22 PM

Wow, Yuri's really is a broken game.
This doesn't happen on RA2... AFAIK

 

I hope you noticed the chronosphere right there, or what are you saying?



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Posted 24 September 2015 - 07:48 PM

You are in desperate need of a reality check. Just because you are ignorant of something does not mean the world cheats you.You offer nothing of substantial evidence in any of your acquisitions. You clearly have no idea how this game works. Take a step back and ask yourself if you have substantial evidence before making such extreme acquisitions.


Prep said it all. Nothing further needs to be said here tbh


#31 Showtime

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Posted 25 September 2015 - 12:57 AM

Prep for president !



#32 xact

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Posted 25 September 2015 - 10:56 PM

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huh?

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#33 Tim4TiGO

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Posted 25 September 2015 - 11:23 PM

There is an infinite power hack made with cheat engine that works fine, no reactors and air defences still working, also the auto ss sometimes bugs and stops taking SSs, but allowing new maps in qm and more than 500 points.

Not to mention the hack allowing to control your enemy units/buildings.


Edited by Tim4TiGO, 25 September 2015 - 11:25 PM.


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Posted 26 September 2015 - 12:56 AM

Oh dear.
This guy is sad. :(
The map I played him on had crates for crying out loud and he still says I was cheating :/

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Posted 26 September 2015 - 05:35 AM

Apledrop's cousin?



#36 FReQuEnZy

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Posted 26 September 2015 - 06:45 PM

I hope you noticed the chronosphere right there, or what are you saying?

 
I did. The point is that building superweapons under gaps in RA2 doesn't reveal them.
 
 

There is an infinite power hack made with cheat engine that works fine, no reactors and air defences still working


Yes, this is possible, I can confirm it.


Not to mention the hack allowing to control your enemy units/buildings.


This is floating around somewhere as well.

#37 rumblesom

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Posted 26 September 2015 - 07:07 PM

It does reveal them on ra2

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Posted 27 September 2015 - 12:55 AM

I did. The point is that building superweapons under gaps in RA2 doesn't reveal them.

It does. I did an experiment a little while ago:

(You may wanna skip to the following points in the video because I was too lazy to edit it :D)

8:35 - Putting Gap Generators AFTER the Super Weapon
13:08 - Multiple Gap Generators
15:43 - Putting Gap Generators BEFORE the Super Weapon
17:00 - Even when you have low power!
 

 

Not to mention the hack allowing to control your enemy units/buildings.

This hack can be a good thing. if modified correctly, it can be used as a feature that allows 2 team mates to control each other's buildings and units, just like Starcraft II's new Archon Mode in Legacy of the Void!



#39 FReQuEnZy

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Posted 27 September 2015 - 12:19 PM

It was already possible to control allied units in previous versions of the game.

Even in War Craft 3.

 

I see that you can't hide the super weapons on official maps.


Edited by FReQuEnZy, 27 September 2015 - 12:20 PM.


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Posted 01 October 2015 - 04:45 PM

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huh?

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I know you are cheating, because Ive watched how you play. You're garbage and are one of the people I was outing with this thread. We all know you use undetectable cheats, and I know I would smash your face in if you stopped useing them. Infact, I beat you the round before that one. So I actually beat you without cheats, proving how shit you are lol.


Edited by qm7z, 01 October 2015 - 04:46 PM.


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Posted 01 October 2015 - 06:39 PM

I know you are cheating, because Ive watched how you play. You're garbage and are one of the people I was outing with this thread. We all know you use undetectable cheats, and I know I would smash your face in if you stopped useing them. Infact, I beat you the round before that one. So I actually beat you without cheats, proving how shit you are lol.


Don't be ridiculous and stop crying about losing to others.
You're just a big fool and a freewin for everybody in here.

Edited by xact, 01 October 2015 - 06:41 PM.


#42 Sustanon

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Posted 01 October 2015 - 07:04 PM

Undetectable cheats have not only been around since yesterday. Fog has been around since before I even owned my first computer. Fog with shroud edges has been around since ages as well, a lot of top-tier players had it - it required you to manually paint the areas within the shroud edges black in Paint/Photoshop.
 
Pro E-sports is dirty, just like bodybuilding or really any other sport for that matter. Even your average innocent looking college kid will be popping Adderalls/Ritalin to study days and nights before an exam. Hell, even swapping calculator electronics to plant the features of a calculator that is not allowed to be used in an exam into the case of a permitted calculator from the same manufacturer with less functions but identic design (this is university level) of course some buttons won't have the right names anymore, most still will - not that button names should be an issue. Sounds ridiculous? It really is pretty smart and I've done it myself before.
 
If you think RA2 is any different then you are very naive. Wherever money is involved - you're going to find cheaters. Yes, there's still money in RA2 otherwise XWIS wouldn't be up and running.  :)
 
 

There are map hacks that can be applied to a second monitor, that datamines the game silently, and can not be screenshoted, as it is not attached to the game. It would require xwis to screenshot the OS's desktop(s). There are other trainers that cannot be detected but I dont know much about them. The worst one in my opinion is the map hack that cannot be detected.

 
I don't know why people are laughing at this. Because this issue is very real. It's all been done before. Just because you haven't seen it - it doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
 
XGS is a perfect example of this. It doesn't do anything different than datamining the game silently, except it records it to a file instead of displaying it on a second monitor, overlay or whatever.

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Posted 01 October 2015 - 11:51 PM

Oh well
I won't lose any sleep over this player thinking I cheat at a game that hasn't mattered since 2008.

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Posted 23 October 2015 - 11:43 PM

i played a guy today always when i click his tanks my tanks move like slow as F... while his tanks drive away fast behind sentry then for a mili sec game moves normal then i want move my tanks back and it starts slow again likemega lag forme while his tanks Comes fast in front of sentrys and shout myn while my tanks take forever even they turn around fo ra shot..and also my tanks not move together like ther is something in the way i direct them ... i heard there is a cheat like that is that true ?


Edited by XWISMOSTWANTED, 23 October 2015 - 11:45 PM.


#45 FReQuEnZy

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Posted 24 October 2015 - 12:50 AM

Yes.



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Posted 24 October 2015 - 12:57 AM

why i dont can go back from that SS to the game states , like Olaf said here :

 

http://xwis.net/forums/index.php/topic/182563-how-to-find-back-from-autoss-number-to-the-game-game-states/

 

to append ?g is usual working,like Olaf said, , i tried it already any times ,but dont work at this screenshoot now ! , but why not ??

 

http://xwis.net/ra2/screenshots/7699663/?g

 

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new edit 02.1115 : found out myself now : if autoss to old, and game stast normore there, , yep, than i cant work, and stay only at th autoss;-)


Edited by erbe58, 02 November 2015 - 08:59 PM.


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Posted 24 October 2015 - 05:41 PM

thx Martin! i knew it... is there way to proof or detect it ?

 

 his Nickname was    "evrlsting" ...



#48 FReQuEnZy

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Posted 25 October 2015 - 03:06 AM

No.

Only a video replay of the match would prove it, seeing as it would show 'convenient' lag spots.

As far as I know, XWIS staff doesn't accept video replays as evidence, though I don't see why not if you /r/dpl a few times in the video.


Edited by FReQuEnZy, 25 October 2015 - 03:07 AM.



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