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#1 TheNecrons

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Posted 31 July 2014 - 04:37 PM

Hi there!

What do you think is better? Missile AA, Flak AA or Gattling AA.

Note: i'm not saying which Unit is better, beacuse i know that it is Age Cruiser. I am saying generally what AA is better.


I personaly think Flak, cuz its splash damage and instanct shot-impapct projectile.

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Posted 31 July 2014 - 04:46 PM

Gattling because it can be used on ground units as well and is pretty damn strong at full power.



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Posted 31 July 2014 - 04:54 PM

Gats are the best in YR for AA.

However if I remember correctly a flak trak beats a gatling tank 1v1

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Posted 31 July 2014 - 07:01 PM

Y AA > S AA > A AA

 

Allieds anti air defense is pathetic. That's why in allied vs. allied games rocketeers are so important, however, yuri's anti air is so strong that making rocketeers vs. yuri is essentially useless.

 

Soviets have great splash damage and make a large group of rocketeers risky business, but have the weakness that all they do is anti air. If soviets spend too much money on anti air, they do not get to spend it on land, whereas yuri's gattling units (tanks / sentry) have multi purpose effects and an army of gattling tanks is a formidable base killing army at worst.

 

You can also have gattling tanks/sentrys shoot at the ground to reach enhanced gattling speed and when an enemy is nearby target the enemy so that you instantly get the upgraded effects of a gattling.



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Posted 31 July 2014 - 07:52 PM

Yes, Allied AA is ineffective i think. (not useless surely).
Didn't know that Gattling was that strong.

Question: how many shots are needed from a Flak Canon to destroy a Harrier? Thanks. I know that they are 2 missiles from a Patriot Missile System.

#6 TheNecrons

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Posted 31 July 2014 - 08:24 PM

Funny thing: today i was playing against a guy in that mode where the only way to get money are Derricks and Crates.
He was USA and camped with Prism Towers and GIs.
I build 2 V3 Lanchers, and start attacking his Base. I had 11+ Flack Trucks, and 9+ Rhinos + a lot of fodder. He didn't build Rockies or Harriers for that reasone.
He built 1 Patriot System, but it was ineffective against 2 missiles. He built 2, 3, 4, 5 and 6 to manage destroying my 2 missiles. That's for 2 reasones:

1) Missiles were quite far from PM Systems.
2) The shitty AI of Patriot Missile.

If you have 5 PM Sytems, all 5 Patriot Missiles will target one of the two V3s, and when one of Patriots hits the V3, the remaining 4 missiles will auto destroy, giving clear way to the second V3. LOL!

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Posted 31 July 2014 - 09:47 PM

woah woah woah

The Allied naval command would say otherwise  



#8 TheNecrons

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Posted 31 July 2014 - 11:59 PM

Age Cruiser OP. And costs only 1200. I wuold rise its cost to 1800.
Elite ones own 3 Kirovs.

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Posted 01 August 2014 - 12:31 AM

lol that thing owns infinite number of kirovs ;)



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Posted 01 August 2014 - 02:38 AM

Yuri's anti air is ridiculously overpowered......................................



#11 TheNecrons

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Posted 01 August 2014 - 02:43 PM

Man, this Yuri is overpowerd in all things.

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Posted 01 August 2014 - 05:29 PM

Yuri is overpowered yes, a very highly skilled-aggressive yuri player can probably win every game on 95% of maps.

Wave tactics > allies.
And if you survive as Soviet past midgame you need to win in early-mid endgame or Yuri has infinite money.

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Posted 01 August 2014 - 07:54 PM

in ra2 it depends. Flak is better vs rockies. And patmisslies are better vs planes.

 

Age Cruiser OP. And costs only 1200. I wuold rise its cost to 1800.
Elite ones own 3 Kirovs.

 

 I disagree. It isnt very mobile, and does nothing else BUT take AA. Whereas sea scorpians are extremely mobile, can hit ground targets, and are effective vs destroyers in the AvS matchup.. U get more for u money with the sea scorp. Its even better vs rocketeers. Cuz it kills multiple at the same time! Did i mention its half the price?  



#14 TheNecrons

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Posted 02 August 2014 - 03:45 AM

I understood.

So you think Sovs Sea AA is better?

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Posted 02 August 2014 - 08:09 AM

lol piners, you're clearly ignorant of the true power of the Allied Fleet



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Posted 02 August 2014 - 11:22 AM

In ra2? IFV, say no more. :)

After some crates it will even splash rockies out of the sky by the flocks.



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Posted 02 August 2014 - 06:03 PM

I understood.

So you think Sovs Sea AA is better?

Yes. I think everything the sov has is better.   Except for subs, they get owned. 



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Posted 02 August 2014 - 08:00 PM

Subs own noob And aegis cruiser Is my favorite unit.

I hope you guys know if you actually click to attack a unit with an aegis cruiser it fires more/faster

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Posted 02 August 2014 - 08:53 PM

Subs own noob And aegis cruiser Is my favorite unit.

I hope you guys know if you actually click to attack a unit with an aegis cruiser it fires more/faster

 

Shhhhhh.

 

 

Subs are pretty bad.



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Posted 03 August 2014 - 01:40 AM

Subs + Scorpion are very hard to stop in early game, and Dolphin is OP....i seen a Naval Yard insta-killed by 10 Dolphines with one shot...and they costs less than Giant Squids....wtf?
Sovs own Ground, Allies own Sea.

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Posted 03 August 2014 - 07:14 AM

Mass subs > mass dolphins.



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Posted 03 August 2014 - 09:14 AM

Mass subs > mass dolphins.

how?



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Posted 05 August 2014 - 02:08 PM

Also i found Rockies very powerfull as AA. Many time when they hear "Kirov reporting" thay just mass Rocketeers and kill the Kirov. Also they are great against V3 Rockets.

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Posted 05 August 2014 - 02:25 PM

how?


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Posted 05 August 2014 - 08:05 PM

Mass subs > mass dolphins.

 

1. dolphins are faster

2. dolphins can decimate an entire army going across a bridge and can often kill buildings on peninsulas

3. 3 of them can kill a naval yard in seconds

4. when used correctly, they can attack many subs at once

 

 

... its the killing naval yards in like 3 seconds that makes them really rape

 

 

so, I'm just going to say no, dolphins > subs... and destroyers are really strong too


Edited by Seke, 05 August 2014 - 08:06 PM.



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