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Best Answer Olaf, 12 January 2013 - 01:23 PM

so i'd like to ask how my money would be used towards the donation of xwis, we it be split amongst all forum admins, or go straight into the pocket of olaf (cuz he wouldn't get my money with his actions lately)
 
would it be used to update our server or HOF?
would it be used to promote some tournament that is a free game from EA?
Donations have been used to renew domains and to pay for a XWIS logo design. They've not been used for anything else, they're not used to pay staff (including me), they're not used for updating HoFs and I don't think they've been used to promote tournaments. Go to the full post


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#1 zMarsHz

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 08:18 PM

i'd like to know when i donate my money what becomes of it? if i ask any place i donate money too they must tell me how my money would be used....

 

so i'd like to ask how my money would be used towards the donation of xwis, we it be split amongst all forum admins, or go straight into the pocket of olaf (cuz he wouldn't get my money with his actions lately)

 

would it be used to update our server or HOF?

would it be used to promote some tournament that is a free game from EA?

 

just curious before i give you guys some money ^^



#2 BlueBala

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 08:20 PM

It would be use for the server. None of us get paid. Taking money from donations would be considered illegal.


Edited by BlueBala, 09 January 2013 - 08:20 PM.


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Posted 09 January 2013 - 08:35 PM

See for donating http://xwis.net/forums/index.php/topic/172891-donations-to-xwis/

 

thanks :)



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Posted 09 January 2013 - 09:39 PM

The Auto SS for Yuri maybe.



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Posted 09 January 2013 - 10:05 PM


The Auto SS for Yuri maybe.

What?

#6 BornL33T

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 10:18 PM

What?

 

Yuri hadn't an Auto SS patch last 2 months if i am not wrong.



#7 Seke

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Posted 10 January 2013 - 12:21 AM

Olaf told me in a similar topic that the funds haven't been used for anything specific yet



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Posted 10 January 2013 - 08:56 AM

Olaf told me in a similar topic that the funds haven't been used for anything specific yet

 

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10-10-2005, 05:55 AM
And WOL/XWIS are just IRC servers: those aren't particularly expensive to run.
I don't think EA is concerned about the hardware/network costs at all.

 

So XWIS doesnt actually pay for the server? Wheres all the money for serials and donations etc go?



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Posted 10 January 2013 - 11:29 AM

See for donating http://xwis.net/forums/index.php/topic/172891-donations-to-xwis/

 

thanks :)

 

As EA pays for the server, the patching and the site hosting and probably for the prizes. I would like to know this as well. 

 

Also what Olaf says there seems politely and nicely gift wrapped for gullible people. It's evident his trying to sell it.

This is why I don't donate and instead work to improve the experience directly.

As since the many donations I haven't seen any proper features or community management and support done as by what I deem quality as to be expected.

 

All it's lead to is replies like "we support the server and keep the online multiplayer function while keeping it cheat free." What about bringing all the classics communities together and actually supporting the game like a fan. I often find out having to clean up and take matters into my own hands after the voids left in many significant areas that are deemed insignificant or not as priorities.

 

As for example the auto ss was around for a while in the form of a secretly released xwis relay which function much similarly to the auto ss patch and time stamped the screenshots with /r/dpl information which was required at the time for admin ss requests and was produced to fill this void, how ever the staff and bounty hunters were aware of this information and didn't proceed to develop their own until 2-3 years later. This style of attitude really ticks me off and makes me wonder how well informed the donators are. At least the donators should be able to give in feature requests.


Edited by FReQuEnZy, 10 January 2013 - 11:32 AM.


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Posted 10 January 2013 - 11:44 AM

Donations haven't been used for anything too specific yet, but will most likely be aimed towards prizes, marketing or other events when we come to it.

 

Edit: We did hire a designer for the XWIS logo back when we had orange and green on the forums.



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Posted 10 January 2013 - 12:10 PM

So the current design is what he came up with? Also you wasted money when Me, you and s3anz could have done it ourselves. Seems a bit funny.

 

Seems like the lack of exploration on different voids that need filling and features that have been requested for years still get showed under the carpet. 

Though I'm sure Olaf can just buy another HD, widescreen monitor and show off SS's of how whole maps fit on his screen.



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Posted 10 January 2013 - 12:13 PM

So the current design is what he came up with? Also you wasted money when Me, you and s3anz could have done it ourselves. Seems a bit funny.

No, just the logo from when the orange and green theme was made.



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Posted 10 January 2013 - 12:35 PM

No, just the logo from when the orange and green theme was made.

Also, I've been desperately trying to get into contact with you to discuss the actions and progress on the community support group. Which I formed to replace the void left by XWIS Buddies.



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Posted 10 January 2013 - 01:46 PM

Seems like no straight forward answers :( 



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Posted 10 January 2013 - 01:51 PM

Ofcourse not, why are you sad about it Adam.



just curious before i give you guys some money ^^

 

Like you have some. :p



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Posted 10 January 2013 - 01:54 PM

 I am confused ....prizes ? They are giving out old outdated games and things like this you could buy on ebay for 5$

 

And they arent updating the HOF so how are prizes going to be given out anyway?

 

Designing a logo couldve been done for free by someone here. I remember that log and it was awful. I hope nobody paid for that.



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Posted 10 January 2013 - 01:57 PM

 I am confused ....prizes ? They are giving out old outdated games and things like this you could buy on ebay for 5$

 

And they arent updating the HOF so how are prizes going to be given out anyway?

 

Designing a logo couldve been done for free by someone here. I remember that log and it was awful. I hope nobody paid for that.

Who's giving outdated games?

 

Tournaments, other events when we come to it.

 

Log? 



Seems like no straight forward answers :(

What would you like answered that I haven't already? :)



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Posted 10 January 2013 - 01:59 PM

You are just a newbee around the forum. I first seen you having remarks at a game called Ra2 / YR. And now you want to give your opinion about economics..?

 

Shush please, and come on Marsh try to make more valuable topics please.


Designing a logo couldve been done for free by someone here. I remember that log and it was awful. I hope nobody paid for that.

 

 

Read more carefully aswell, is has been paid already.



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Posted 10 January 2013 - 02:21 PM

It would be use for the server. None of us get paid. Taking money from donations would be considered illegal.

no one but olaf obviously lol

 

See for donating http://xwis.net/forums/index.php/topic/172891-donations-to-xwis/

 

thanks :)

how vauge.....so now we learn donations haven't been used for anything but a logo we trashed, awesome.

 

so can we ask, where are the funds for donations now?  there is a paypal account with donation money on it for XWIS that has been sitting and not used?....bogus.



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Posted 10 January 2013 - 02:22 PM

Who's giving outdated games?

 

Tournaments, other events when we come to it.

 

Log? 



What would you like answered that I haven't already? :)

 

Like all the tournaments that have given out same prizes as HOF meaning they still come from EA's prize pool. More direct answer dodging and making up thing.

No direct answers like Adam said. You're just dodging around mister. 

 

How about spending it on new better software or some one who can code better and deliver proper features to the game, new patches, proper C&C collectors editions prizes, pro forum skins, new server features, why did a server member had to donate money for cash prizes on the tournaments and buy a custom skin for Christmas, this is something the staff should be looking out for.

 

Right now it seems all those donations are being hidden in Olaf's paypal account. Though no one seems to care about this black hole. Also considering Olaf's speed on developing and releasing updates and new features this money could be much better used if he 'can't afford to take time off work' to develop this. It could be just that the donations are around 5 dollars too which is doubtful of the whole fund that has gathered by now.



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Posted 10 January 2013 - 02:26 PM

Like all the tournaments that have given out same prizes as HOF meaning they still come from EA's prize pool. More direct answer dodging and making up thing.

No direct answers like Adam said. You're just dodging around mister. 

 

How about spending it on new better software or some one who can code better and deliver proper features to the game, new patches, proper C&C collectors editions prizes, pro forum skins, new server features, why did a server member had to donate money for cash prizes on the tournaments and buy a custom skin for Christmas, this is something the staff should be looking out for.

 

Right now it seems all those donations are being hidden in Olaf's paypal account. Though no one seems to care about this black hole. Also considering Olaf's speed on developing and releasing updates and new features this money could be much better used if he 'can't afford to take time off work' to develop this. It could be just that the donations are around 5 dollars too which is doubtful of the whole fund that has gathered by now.

you couldn't be talking about the prizes that EA gives out thru orgin with free download keys, could you?

because i remember reading it was promotional from EA and it wasn't directly donated by XWIS.

 

 

(got 3 games thru XWIS, all of them make sure i know EA was giving me that game)


Edited by marsh1, 10 January 2013 - 02:27 PM.


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Posted 10 January 2013 - 02:35 PM

Like all the tournaments that have given out same prizes as HOF meaning they still come from EA's prize pool. More direct answer dodging and making up thing.

No direct answers like Adam said. You're just dodging around mister. 

 

How about spending it on new better software or some one who can code better and deliver proper features to the game, new patches, proper C&C collectors editions prizes, pro forum skins, new server features, why did a server member had to donate money for cash prizes on the tournaments and buy a custom skin for Christmas, this is something the staff should be looking out for.

 

Right now it seems all those donations are being hidden in Olaf's paypal account. Though no one seems to care about this black hole. Also considering Olaf's speed on developing and releasing updates and new features this money could be much better used if he 'can't afford to take time off work' to develop this. It could be just that the donations are around 5 dollars too which is doubtful of the whole fund that has gathered by now.


Did I say the donations had been used for prizes yet? No.  Did I not just say we've only spent it towards a logo? Yes.


Did I make it clear EA, the community manager of C&C donated the prizes for the Yuri Madness event? Yes.

 

Its in Olaf's Paypal dur, you donate to Olaf@Xwis.net.  No donations are hidden away from XWIS or ST Admins of this site, we are notified and we keep track of who donated. We also note expense(s), and what we have left.  Why not have a separate Paypal account? Paypal doesn't like you having two accounts AFAIK. 

 

Because it was kindly donated, custom skins and its renewal fee don't last forever. Pro IPB skins? You're on one. Custom made for free, you're welcome.

 

We notify the community of a donation in News.



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Posted 10 January 2013 - 02:38 PM

We notify the community of a donation in News.

i suppose you do if this is the topic in which you told us our donations have only been used for a skin....as i don't see in topic that tells me otherwise how donations have been spent.

 

if i had known before how the donations where spent, with the exception of the extremely vague topic olaf made, i wouldn't have made this topic


Edited by marsh1, 10 January 2013 - 02:40 PM.


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Posted 10 January 2013 - 02:40 PM

i suppose you do if this is the topic in which you told us our donations have only been used for a skin....as i don't see in topic that tells me otherwise how donations have been spent.

What? Explain don't understand.



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Posted 10 January 2013 - 02:41 PM

What? Explain don't understand.

disregard as i read your post wrong LMAO :p

 

i thought it was phrased different , that you guys posted news on how the donations were spent, which would probably be a good idea.


Edited by marsh1, 10 January 2013 - 02:42 PM.



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