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#1 Chrisev

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Posted 21 October 2012 - 07:26 AM

http://xwis.net/ts/pl/dcaseal/

I had been doing a small game to see if the games arrived on the ladder of XWIS. Unfortunately no stats on the ladder... A guy just sent me this video in MP! FOG hack lol !
What a shame!

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Edited by Sean3z, 25 October 2012 - 03:42 PM.
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#2 tbiol

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Posted 21 October 2012 - 02:19 PM

I like the quote " i guess it's kinda fair that some people have an early advantage"

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Posted 21 October 2012 - 04:36 PM

ye ye , u guys quick to mock him for cheating, welll if the autoss patch was released, i bet there would be a LOT more people to laugh at(Autoss for ts) I bet the ones like ra2 who wont get it will say it lags(cheaters) and the ones who get it will be the ones aloud 2 play on tourny(hopefuly its mandatory although since you guys are struggling to make it mandatory for ra2 which i think is a JOKE, who knows) o.O

#4 Chrisev

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Posted 21 October 2012 - 04:38 PM

I think it might get banned because there's that other video where he uses the Fog hack, on RA2 for example.

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Posted 21 October 2012 - 04:46 PM

dcaseal cheats all the time, He likes to build firewall in the middle of the map yet no buildings there, but the way Tiberian sun is at the moment he is just one of many many cheaters who have all developed the love of the mapper since playing visc maps as it makes all the visc go to there corner of the wall they have just shot out and this is why some players have only 1 kill because on these silly maps u dont see your allie for a couple of min

#6 Ste_J

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Posted 21 October 2012 - 05:01 PM

It's sad that he obviously doesn't care whether or not he gets banned, and that he's probably given up on TS. ;*(

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Posted 21 October 2012 - 05:45 PM

The bounty hunter is on the case :D

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Posted 21 October 2012 - 06:18 PM

Go Mole!!!!!!!!! But how can you tell if someone maps against you in a game????? It's downright impossible to prove in a screenshot!!!!!!!! Plus, with tournament games mostly not counting now, you can't really use his videos as proof, seeing as how the XWIS admins could just say it might've been an FFG, or on a mod designed to look like a WW map!!!!!!!!!! ;*@

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Posted 21 October 2012 - 06:38 PM

And Chrise, thanks for trying to help TS, even though primarily being an RA2 player. ;*D

#10 Chrisev

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Posted 21 October 2012 - 07:04 PM

The bounty hunter is on the case :D

I think the fact is the game dont have stats on XWIS Ladder, that's why i dont have report him cuz i'm pretty sure it will be not proven. But i think if we looking about other games from this player, he got ranked game on RA2 this month with fog hack on video.

Tiberian Sun is a great game too Ste_J :)

#11 Ste_J

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Posted 21 October 2012 - 08:24 PM

You have good taste!!!!!

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Posted 21 October 2012 - 08:41 PM

I think the fact is the game dont have stats on XWIS Ladder, that's why i dont have report him cuz i'm pretty sure it will be not proven.


I'd report them regardless. Even if it doesn't get proven, it'll at least raise awareness for our Staff and Bounty Hunters :)

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Posted 22 October 2012 - 10:03 AM

ban this guy what kinda example u gonna let him set its ok to cheat seeing the other base prtty much you got the win u can see whats coming to counter the attcks this is bs I hate this guy now please ban this is not on.

#14 nodrescue

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Posted 22 October 2012 - 04:15 PM

l0ck they cannot ban unless they have a report :)
This guy is most prob donating profits from his map hack tool back into xwis
or maybe they are using him to make more players leave so they can finally close Tiberian Sun.
Who knows and its 100% sure nobody here cares lol

a group of us were talking to him last night as he didn't seem at all bothered by the fact everyone knew
he was actually shocked to hear we didn't have it also :(

#15 Ste_J

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Posted 22 October 2012 - 05:29 PM

No one in their right mind would buy a cheat program for a 13 year old game, Superman!!!!! And in one of DCASqueal's RA2 videos, he says he made that particular maphack himself, and links to it on his YouTube channel, so I doubt many people have it!!!!!! He's probably the only one, in fact!!!!!!

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Posted 22 October 2012 - 06:05 PM

The particular tool he's using was made several years ago. I would strongly encourage users to stay away from it as it was designed to additional steal personal PC related data (keylogger).

Detection Ratio: 37/42
Analysis Date: 2012-10-22 20:33:15 UTC (5 minutes ago)
First seen: 2008-01-14 20:05:44 UTC (4 years, 9 months ago)
Virus Scan by Virus Total

Edited by Sean3z, 22 October 2012 - 08:31 PM.


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Posted 22 October 2012 - 06:07 PM

Thanks Sean!!!!!!! ;*D In a way, it's karma against cheaters, getting viruses for downloading cheats!!!!!!! ;*)

#18 nodrescue

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Posted 22 October 2012 - 08:08 PM

I was playing Americas army and they auto ss your game to prevent cheating
I also play project Blackout where if you go back to windows after game launches it crashes
Why can't we have this system on Tiberian Sun to give players piece of mind :)

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Posted 22 October 2012 - 08:10 PM

We're currently working on an AutoSS but please remember, we do not have the source to TS.

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Posted 22 October 2012 - 08:51 PM

Who is we?

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Posted 22 October 2012 - 08:55 PM

Regarding the AutoSS: Crisis and myself.
Regarding the Source: Everyone except EA? :p

Perhaps you could add your opinion on the matter, as this particular player is also using the same method on RA2.

Edited by Sean3z, 22 October 2012 - 09:02 PM.


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Posted 22 October 2012 - 09:08 PM

Who is Crisis?
RA2 has auto SS to counter this.

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Posted 22 October 2012 - 09:13 PM

Crisis approached me for some assistance on how to go about creating an Auto SS for YR. Naturally I have one planned for TS, so I offered some advice. I haven't talked with him recently but last I heard, things were going well on his end. The idea is to have them both submit screenshots to xwis.us once complete.

Please review my topic in Bounty Hunters. Shouldn't video evidence with clear game indication, trump Auto SS?

Edited by Sean3z, 22 October 2012 - 09:27 PM.


#24 Ste_J

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Posted 22 October 2012 - 09:35 PM

Who is we?

Argh!!!!! It sounds like Olaf has the code, and he's keeping his staff in the dark because he's making his own secretive plans!!!!!! ;*(

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Posted 23 October 2012 - 04:15 PM

Would the auto SS be for all games played or just tourney games? I hope it's for all games played since the vast majority of games are played outside of ladder matches, so if auto SS is just for tourney, that isn't really a solution to any problem at all. If it's for all games that are played, that could really solve both these problems:

1) People cheating using mappers
2) People wrongly being accused of using mappers

Both are problems of equal magnitude. I haven't played a game of tib sun for a few weeks now, ensuring it's a fair playing field and all the complaining can be reduced would be enough to get me playing again at least.

EDIT: if multiple ss's are taken early in the game, that could also help solve problems of people using tech cheats, minimapper and who know what else is being used... If storage is an issue just compress the SS's as they don't need to be super high quality, just as long as they can be clearly seen.

Edited by Sean3z, 23 October 2012 - 04:45 PM.
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