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#1 Inego

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Posted 08 May 2012 - 08:56 PM

GID Player A Player B Duration Scenario Date FPS C S T
13299 vpilgr1mi W +42 inego L -27 54:29 Meat Grinder 16:22 08-05-2012 34 P
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inego killed bought left captured
units 19 92 57
buildings 3 41 48 10
infantry 45 219 97
planes 0 20 3
vpilgr1mi killed bought left captured
units 3 21 1
buildings 0 13 0 4
infantry 39 46 0
planes 0 4 0

http://xwis.net/forums/index.php/topic/173192-invisible-mcv-yuris/

its the second time on the same person http://xwis.net/forums/index.php/topic/173165-vpilgr1mi-2nd-time-cheater/

and he say it for the invisible mcv

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Edited by Gansta, 08 May 2012 - 08:57 PM.


#2 AlliedPlayer

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Posted 08 May 2012 - 09:44 PM

I would just like to point out that Gansta is posting edited ss's in a cheat report. (not trying to go off topic - just noting it as this isn't allowed)

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#3 BlueBala

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Posted 09 May 2012 - 05:59 AM

Unfortunately invisible MCV can't be proven on YR :(


*Not Proven*

#4 Inego

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Posted 10 May 2012 - 12:29 AM

I would just like to point out that Gansta is posting edited ss's in a cheat report. (not trying to go off topic - just noting it as this isn't allowed)


the second ss was a paint bug i didnt edit it
and the first one is original

Edited by Gansta, 10 May 2012 - 12:29 AM.


#5 DylHole

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Posted 10 May 2012 - 02:29 AM

Unfortunately invisible MCV can't be proven on YR :(


*Not Proven*

The whole map is scouted, he has similar offences that blatantly point to invisible mcv glitch (http://xwis.net/yr/games/10659/), and on top of that he tells you that he is doing it.
Use your head

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#6 FReQuEnZy

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Posted 10 May 2012 - 02:58 AM

According to previous reports, when a player admits to cheating in a cheat report he will be banned.
This case is the same, also Olaf has posted on this topic too, namely the option for players to admit to cheating in cheat reports.

I suggest that you ask Olaf on this matter, as this seems like a clear cut case to me.
As the player is openly admitting to bug abuse.

#7 BlueBala

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Posted 10 May 2012 - 03:59 AM

I discussed it with other admins

Edited by BlueBala, 10 May 2012 - 07:35 AM.


#8 DylHole

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Posted 10 May 2012 - 06:08 AM

Let me educate the other admins then;

In 'Yuri's Revenge : Quick Match', the most popular way to win the game is to destroy all of the enemy's 'buildings'. There is one unit in the game that allows the game to continue, without any 'buildings' being detected in the game and you could even say that it doubles as a 'building'. That unit is the MCV (Mobile Construction Vehicle). It is similar with all 3 sides and when deployed acts as an important and if not the most important 'building' in the game. The Ra2 and Yr statistics pick the MCV up as a 'building' when deployed, and a 'unit' when in original form.

There is a glitch that makes the MCV invisible and this only works because the 'unit' still registers as a 'building' in-game and allows the game to continue. However in the statistics in registers as a 'unit'.
The perfect example of 'invisible MCV' glitch statistics can be found below.

http://st.xwis.net/yr/games/8732/
GID Player A Player B Duration Scenario Date FPS C S T
8732 thelemic W +21 vpilgr1mi L -14 17:37 Sahara Mirage 11:21 06-05-2012 44 P
thelemic killed bought left captured
units 13 59 31
buildings 3 15 16 10
infantry 43 59 47
planes 1 2 0
vpilgr1mi killed bought left captured
units 20 23 1
buildings 0 19 0 3
infantry 4 50 0
planes 0 3 0

http://st.xwis.net/yr/games/13299/
GID Player A Player B Duration Scenario Date FPS C S T
13299 vpilgr1mi W +42 inego L -27 54:29 Meat Grinder 06:22 09-05-2012 34 P
inego killed bought left captured
units 19 92 57
buildings 3 41 48 10
infantry 45 219 97
planes 0 20 3
vpilgr1mi killed bought left captured
units 3 21 1
buildings 0 13 0 4
infantry 39 46 0
planes 0 4 0

http://st.xwis.net/yr/games/10659/
GID Player A Player B Duration Scenario Date FPS C S T
10659 qmkorea RE vpilgr1mi RE 2:11:40 Golden State Fwy 11:39 07-05-2012 32 S P
qmkorea killed bought left captured
units 20 790 49
buildings 4 752 42 5
infantry 294 910 251
planes 0 0 0
vpilgr1mi killed bought left captured
units 24 42 1
buildings 0 19 0 2
infantry 3 50 0
planes 0 0 0


Now that the admins are educated about the glitch, they should know that glitch abuse or bug abuse is not allowed on the XWIS servers and are considered a bannable offence.
When a bug is considered abused, a cheat report can be completed and then the admins decide whether there is sufficient evidence and whether the offence is bannable.
A perfect example of reporting an 'invisible MCV' would be something very similar to this report. It contains a r/dpl screen-shot (verifying the game), more screen-shots showing the map fully revealed and no enemy units visible and even rock solid evidence of the accused confessing to the bug abuse/cheat/bannable offence.

To say there is insufficient evidence is a joke. Both parties agree that bug abuse has been used and the statistics point to the same individual using it not once, but in three different games.
To say statistics don't count as sufficient evidence, I know for a fact that they are taken into consideration in reports about DCs (Disconnections)/REs (Reconnection Errors) and of course reports about 'pushing', where one player intentionally loses the game to boost the other with points.

Unless of course you are trying to encourage this bug abuse to the game, there is no reason to punish the accused accordingly.

Edited by DylHole, 10 May 2012 - 06:08 AM.


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Posted 10 May 2012 - 07:38 AM

Within further analysis, an MCV is identified; however, to claim it is invisible goes beyond reasonable amount of doubt.

Verdict remains.


/edit- please stop spamming cheat reports

Edited by BlueBala, 10 May 2012 - 08:08 AM.


#10 DylHole

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Posted 10 May 2012 - 11:37 AM

Xwis:

we dont like cheaters, unless you cheat this way then we dont mind you



#11 Inego

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Posted 10 May 2012 - 12:13 PM

OMG...... :bann:

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Posted 04 June 2012 - 11:40 PM

VPILGR1MI

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IS A NEWB BAILING ****


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