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#1 hardman

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Posted 18 April 2009 - 09:13 PM

EDIT: sorry for the few people that had already voted in the poll but it has been agreed that it would be better not to do it in poll format.

I think things need to get going on this so I have made this topic with seemingly the 3 most popular proposals. All 3 have their differences, please vote for your favourite. When you have voted please post the name of the persons proposal you prefer and a short sentence explaining why. For example:

<name>

-short explanation

This will make it clearer to everyone :)

The one with most votes can then be submitted to Don as our FINAL proposal and maybe she can get things moving. Hopefully we can nip this thing in the bud and get this quickmatch renovation well under way.

Votes so far:

Aly's (t3h j3w) proposal: 11 votes
Tony's (iAmaLeGeNd) proposal: 3 votes
TimmyJohn's proposal: 0 votes


Aly's (t3h j3w) proposal:
http://xwis.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=153899

Ok, first of all, I think it's important to name the current QM maps of which the ones where Yuri can be faced are marked. I admittably don't have much experience playing vs Yuri so I'll depend on you guys to tell me which maps you want to play yuri on. I've added a lot of the maps prep suggested, just not as many.


So what's different about my plan? I retain the old maps. That's important I think. Just taking out the ones which are obiously imbalanced (anytown). I think we already got a pretty good list. I know they're players who want to add some spice so I've added more maps, but I'm not adding a ridiculous amount of maps. I also tried to add some maps which favour allied and some which favour sov. And finally, adding some maps to the Yuri vs Sov/allied matchup.

A=Allied
S=Sov
Y=Yuri


Current YR QM Maps:

1) GSF <
2)Dry Heat <
3)Offense Defense<
4) Death Valley
5)Heartland<
6)Anytown America
7)Hidden Valley<
8)South Pacific
9)The Alamo
10)Defcon 6
11)Dune Patrol<
12)Hammer and Sickle
13)Isle
14)Montana<
15)Urban<
16)CS<
17)Dustbowl<
18)Face Down
19)Lake Blitzen
20) No wimps
21)Tour of Egypt
22)BF<
23)Meat Grinder
24)New Heights
25)Official Tournament Map A
26)Tanyas
27)Deadman's Ridge
28)Official map b
29)Paris Revisited<
30)Roundhouse Kick
31)Sahara Mirage<
32)Sovereign Land
33)Stormy Weather
34)A hill between
35)Cold War
36)Depth Charge
37)Pinch Point

Super Weapon Settings:

SvS, SvA, AvA, YvY = Random, unless listed below.
YvA = Off.
YvS = On.

The following matchups I believe require SW always on. Let me know.

Isle of War (SvA,SvS), Mayday (SvA), Death Valley (SvS, AvA, SvA), Hammer and Sickle (SvS, AvS), Deadman's Ridge (SvS, SvA), Depth Charge (AvS)

Maps to be be removed from battles which don't involve yuri (svs,ava,avs):

-Anytown Amerika

Maps to be eliminated from Yuri battles (yvy,yvs,yva):

-Urban rush
-Dune Patrol: YvA
-BF: YvA

Maps to be added to battles which don't involve Yuri (svs,ava,avs) :

-Heck Freezes Over
-El Dorado
-Malibu Cliffs
-Four Corners
-Hail Mary
-Valley of Gems
-Bridging the Gap
-Path beyond 2
-Twin Peaks
-Brink of Disaster
-Loaded Barrel

Maps to be added to Yuri battles (yvy,yvs,yva):

Copying from Prep's list..
-Oceanside AvY
-Head for the hills
-Tanyas Training Grounds < Dunno bout that one.
-Heck Freezes Over <again
-Snowball's Chance
-Arena 33 forever
-East vs Best AvY <might be good
-Double Trouble AvY
-Tower of Power
-Defcon 6
-Malibu Cliffs
-Mt Olympus
-Brink of Disaster AvY



Tony's (iAmaLeGeNd) proposal:
http://xwis.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=153650

With a lot of help from timmyjohn, ANOTHEr, and justin and the rest of the community(idk all ur names lol)
This is my final proposal.


Ok assuming all maps from Qm were wiped out and htis is from Scratch.
also assuming all maps Are mirror matched unless stated other wise (ava , svs , yvy)

Game settings

Avy-Random Super weapons
Svy-supers always on
Avs-Random supers
mirror matches-Random supers

MY Map List (remember some things can be fixed later on)

isle of war-Avs
Blood feud- Avs
Dune patrol- Avs
Dustbowl - avs avy
HAil mary- Avs (i honestly think yuri would rape this map)
HIdden valley-AvS
a hill between-Only mirrors
let tehre be fight-avs
Loaded barrel-all
Meatgrinder-Avs
Sahara mirage-All
Sovereign land-All
Twin peaks-Avs
Urban rush-Mirrors only
Brink of disaster-all
CArvilles convoy-all
City under seige-Avs
Country swing-all
Dry heat-all
Facedown-Avs
Golden state freeway-All
Head for the hills-all
Heartland-all
Isle of oades-Avs
Lost lake-all
Montana DMZ-all
Mount olympus-all
Oceanside-all
Pacific heights-AVs
Paris revisited-Avs
Rockets red glare-Avs
Roundhouse kick-Avs
SHrapnel mountain-Avs
Sinkhole-Avy Svy
Snowvalley-Avs
Snowballs chance - Avs
South pacific-Avs
Tsunami- avs
Valley of gems Avs
Bering strait-avs
Bidging the gap-all
Defcon 6 -mirrors
MAlibu cliffs-ALL
SIberian wastes-ALL
Heck freezes over-ALL
Off tourny a - AVS
Off tourny b-AVS
DOuble trouble-Avy
Offense defense-Avy avs
Tour of egypt-Avs
Austin Tx-Mirrors
Death valley girl- AVY
SEa of isolation-Avy,
Stormy weather-AVS
Army of the potomac-AVs, avy, Svy ( navy cant be built here so no worries on boomer rushes.)

Thats the map list i would like to see in YR QM
and the matchups, sure its not 100% perfect but nothing is,
i know for fact its 100% better then what qm is now tho.


TimmyJohn's proposal:
http://xwis.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=153695

This is my full proposal, it includes current yr/ra2 qm maps + more...

Sov vs Sov random s.w
Yuri vs Sov supers on
Allied vs Sov random s.w
Allied vs Allied random s.w
Allied vs Yuri supers on s.w
Yuri vs Yuri random s.w

Yuri = Y
Allied = A
Soviets = S

The Alamo (SvS SvA AvA)
Blood Fued (ANY FACTION Vs ANY FACTION)
Deadman's Ridge (SvS AvA SvA YvY)
Death Valley Girl (SvS SvA AvA YvY)
Dune Patrol (ANY FACTION Vs ANY FACTION)
Hidden Valley (ANY FACTION Vs ANY FACTION)
A Hill Between (SvS SvA YvY)
Isle Of War (SvS SvA AvA YvY)
May Day - (YvY)
Meat Grinder (SvS SvA AvA YvY)
New Heights (SvS SvA AvA YvY)
Urban Rush (SvS SvA AvA YvY)
Anytown America (YvY)
Country Swing (ANY FACTION Vs ANY FACTION)
Dry Heat (ANY FACTION Vs ANY FACTION)
Facedown (SvS SvA AvA YvY)
Golden State Fwy (ANY FACTION Vs ANY FACTION)
Heartland (ANY FACTION Vs ANY FACTION)
Lake Blitzen (SvS AvA YvY)
Pinch Point (SvS SvA AvA YvY)
Sahara Mirage (Mirror Match)
Sovereign Land (ANY FACTION Vs ANY FACTION)
Montana DMZ (ANY FACTION VS ANY FACTION)
Paris Revisited (ANY FACTION VS ANY FACTION)
Snow Valley (SvS SvA AvA YvY)
Offense Defense (ANY FACTION Vs ANY FACTION)
South Pacific (SvS SvA AvA YvY)
Tanya's Training Grounds (SvS SvA AvA YvY)
Tour Of Egypt (SvS SvA AvA YvY)
Official Tournament A (SvS SvA AvA YvY)
Official Tournament B (SvS SvA AvA YvY)
Hail Mary (Mirror Match)
Let There Be A Fight (SvS SvA YvY AvA)
Little Piece Of Dune (SvS SvA AvA YvY)
Loaded Barrel (Mirror Match)
Twin Peaks (Mirror Match)
Snowball's Chance (ANY FACTION Vs ANY FACTION)
Isle of Oades (SvS SvA AvA YvY)
Rush Hour (SvY AvY)
Depth Charge (SvS SvA AvA YvY)
Malibu Cliffs (ANY FACTION Vs ANY FACTION)
Little Big Lake (SvS SvA AvA YvY)
City Under Siege (SvS SvA AvA YvY)
DC Uprising (SvS SvA AvA YvY)
Hammer And Sickle (SvS SvA AvA YvY)
Stormy Weather (Mirror Match)
Army Of The Potomac - (SvS AvA SvA)
Siberian Wastes (SvY AvY YvY)
Tsunami (Mirror Match)
Area 33 Forever ( SvY YvY YvA)
Defcon 6 (SvS SvA AvA)


Edited by Keano, 11 May 2009 - 02:59 PM.


#2 Pompski

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Posted 18 April 2009 - 09:14 PM

Id like to vote for aly, it has everything i want to get me playing YR again like i plan too if it is accepted....

Edited by Pompi, 18 April 2009 - 09:27 PM.


#3 hardman

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Posted 18 April 2009 - 09:25 PM

t3h j3w

I simply think this is the most balanced proposal

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Posted 18 April 2009 - 10:25 PM

Small change in mine. It's been agreed Paris won't be removed. I'm voting for myself because I think it's the best.

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Posted 18 April 2009 - 10:26 PM

updated.

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Posted 18 April 2009 - 10:28 PM

Small change in mine. It's been agreed Paris won't be removed. I'm voting for myself because I think it's the best.


even better.

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Posted 19 April 2009 - 01:16 AM

I will vote for Aly's proposal however there are a few problems.

Supers in allied v yuri should either be on or random, I see no reason to have them off. Cronosphere is actually quite important against Yuri on a lot of maps.

Do not add Heck to QM pool, unbalanced map due to starting positions and IMO far too big for 1v1 games. It is better as a CM map.

Do not add East V Best to QM pool, not a good map for 1v1 games.

Apart from that the proposal looks decent.

I am not so bothered if you want to include heck or EVB, but supers in AvY should def not be off.

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Posted 19 April 2009 - 01:56 AM

aly's proposal
and supers in avy are off because in the end it's more beneficial for the allies if they're off because then yuri doesn't have infinite cash or instant kill/mind control

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Posted 19 April 2009 - 05:41 AM

as much as his map list is tiny i vote aly as well

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Posted 19 April 2009 - 09:58 AM

i vote for alyosha !

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Posted 19 April 2009 - 02:39 PM

Aly's proposal, it looks better than the others.

#12 TimmyJohn

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Posted 22 April 2009 - 10:31 PM

aly :)

#13 hardman

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Posted 23 April 2009 - 02:34 PM

Come on guys. If we want things to change we need to get things moving here. More votes! So far only 9 votes and all are for aly lol

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Posted 24 April 2009 - 02:12 PM

man all the other proposals are garbage lol
this one will win, having 100% of votes is as good as done

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Posted 25 April 2009 - 04:03 AM

aly's is good but EVB in qm is a complete fail. the idea is "quick match" add EVB and heck and u might aswell just chuck in sedonna..territorial imperative... etc the maps 2 big i also dont think paris will work out balanced for the likes of SVY but other than that pretty nice =]

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Posted 25 April 2009 - 09:55 AM

just vote yes or no...

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Posted 25 April 2009 - 10:00 AM

the first one looks the best but east vs best is a big no-no, at least vs yuri. magnetons on hills are just plain broken. also, yuri would be able to camp for years on that map with very little effort.

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Posted 25 April 2009 - 11:23 AM

In his proposal e v b with a v y he is unsure of. If people are against this i am sure he will remove it.

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Posted 25 April 2009 - 11:08 PM

sure, I'll remove it if a suitable substitute is found. People can't just come in here and say this, this, and that don't work and have no other ideas.

This is all off topic though.

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Posted 26 April 2009 - 01:23 PM

yes if you think a proposal needs slight tweaking then suggest it in the relative topic. Please simply vote your favourite proposal here.

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Posted 27 April 2009 - 12:28 PM

can sum1 page don or make a topic w/e and tell her to have a bot auto msg this on yr so this can be done alot faster!

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Posted 27 April 2009 - 05:53 PM

Seems fine with Aly, just a few things should be definitely modified, leave SW's on AvY, that has always been a QM standard setting, changing it would be absurd. Also, add new maps for yvy battles, there needs to be a better variety of them.

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Posted 29 April 2009 - 06:09 AM

i vote tony's. we need way more maps, not just a couple added.

especially us yuri players who get to play A/S on all of 9 maps maybe?

still wanna know y ra2 ppl are voting.....

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Posted 29 April 2009 - 10:19 AM

They all have need to ajust...but the better is from imlogend :mellow:

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Posted 29 April 2009 - 10:37 AM

aly....


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