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#1 Showtime

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Posted 17 June 2016 - 04:34 AM

Morning,

Trying to get OBS as smoooth as it can get, the people from obs told me i should run in window mode in order to get obs gamecapture to see red alert 2.

Any help ?



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Posted 17 June 2016 - 08:47 AM

Make a shortcut to RA2 and put the -win parameter in the Target entry in its properties.

 

Like...

"C:\Path\To\RA2\game.exe" -win



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Posted 17 June 2016 - 08:53 AM

wtf lol

Im kinda new with these things.

Do i need to put the line in ra2.ini ?

 

I tryed to change this "C:\Users\john\Documents\Red Alert 2\game.exe" with putting the -win behind it but it didnt save it.

"C:\Users\john\Documents\Red Alert 2\game.exe" -win like that


Edited by Showtime, 17 June 2016 - 08:54 AM.


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Posted 17 June 2016 - 11:02 AM

wtf lol
Im kinda new with these things.
Do i need to put the line in ra2.ini ?

No, the ini has nothing to do with this, unless you want to correct the resolution of the window.

Create a shortcut to game.exe (or gamemd.exe for YR) and do this:
ra2parameter.png

Forgot to mention that you need to set your display settings to have 16-bit colour depth instead of 32-bit in order for this to work. Here's a guide how to do it in Win7: http://www.guidingtech.com/9914/change-from-16-bit-to-32-bit-color-windows-7/


The XWIS client of RA2 is set to have a borderless window, while YR is not.

Edited by PlokiteWolf, 17 June 2016 - 11:02 AM.


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Posted 17 June 2016 - 12:02 PM

thx dude :)

it worked but obs can't see ra2 in gamecaputere ,ffs


Edited by Showtime, 17 June 2016 - 12:06 PM.


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Posted 17 June 2016 - 12:21 PM

Tried monitor capture?

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Posted 17 June 2016 - 12:23 PM

yes that is the only 1 working,but its the slowest



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Posted 17 June 2016 - 02:16 PM

doesnt work


Edited by Showtime, 17 June 2016 - 02:33 PM.


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Posted 17 June 2016 - 02:22 PM

Why don't you use OBS Studio instead? It records both full screen and windowed mode just fine on Win 7.

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Posted 17 June 2016 - 02:33 PM

Why don't you use OBS Studio instead? It records both full screen and windowed mode just fine on Win 7.

ok ill try that m8 ty



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Posted 17 June 2016 - 02:41 PM

Why don't you use OBS Studio instead? It records both full screen and windowed mode just fine on Win 7.

also would be nice if u added a couple of screenshots of how to configure obs studio for ra2.

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Posted 17 June 2016 - 03:02 PM

It also streams just fine as well. I just made a test run on Twitch.
 

also would be nice if u added a couple of screenshots of how to configure obs studio for ra2.

Ok I'll try to do one now

(fkn noobs... I mean... fkn people who aren't nerds like me :p)

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Posted 17 June 2016 - 03:19 PM

Well, I was about to make a little tutorial with images, but come to think of it, there really isn't anything to write. I just used the default settings that OBS Studio came with after I installed it, except for the Desktop (and Mic) Audio Device I had to select the ones I'm using. The rest of the settings are pretty straight forward. With streaming I just selected Twitch then added my Stream key. Just play around with it yourself, and if you have any questions I'll try to answer it.



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Posted 18 June 2016 - 05:13 AM

When i have gamecapture as source (only gamecapture) i have blackscreen,but when i put windowed source below gamecapture i have screen,but does the gamecapture work ?

I mean do need to have more source's or can u do it only with gamecapture ?


Edited by Showtime, 18 June 2016 - 05:14 AM.


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Posted 18 June 2016 - 11:59 AM

Firewok do u need to play ra2 in windowed for gamecapture ?



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Posted 18 June 2016 - 05:01 PM

Firewok do u need to play ra2 in windowed for gamecapture ?

When recording RA2 in windowed mode, use 'Windows Capture'. When recording in full screen, use 'Game Capture'. Game Capture doesn't seem to be able to capture RA2 in windowed mode. The following might help...

 
I have a Radeon R9 290x GPU installed, which despite it's age is still pretty decent. The GPU makes a lot of difference with performace when it comes to video game recording/streaming. That said, here are
the settings that work for me...
 
My MAIN PAGE looks like this:
main%20page.jpg
Note that in this screen shot, under Sources, I only have 'RA2 Windows Capture' (just a name I made up for this option) enabled as I was recording/streaming RA2 in windowed mode at the time. You can enable/disable a Source by clicking the EYE icon.
 
 
When recording/streaming in WINDOWED mode, use Windows Capture: (Right-click inside the box under Sources -> Add -> Window Capture).
Windows%20Capture%20Settings.jpg

Sample of RA2 in Windowed Mode at 1280x720:
RA2%20windowed%20mode.jpg
 
 
When recording/streaming in FULL SCREEN mode, use Game Capture (Right click inside the box under Sources -> Add -> Game Capture).
Full%20Screen%20Settings.jpg
 
 
These are my VIDEO SETTINGS (File -> Settings -> Video) or just click the 'Settings' button at the bottom right of the main page then click 'Video'.
Settings.jpg

  • BASE and OUTPUT RESOLUTION should be the same as your RA2's resolution. You only need to change the OUTPUT resolution if you want to capture in one quality, but stream/record in another (For example, record in 1920x1080, but stream in 800x450 for less lag).
  • DOWNSCALE FILTER is only used if your Output Resolution is different to your Base Resolution, as mentioned in the previous point.
  • I have COMMON FPS VALUES (which is the amount of frames you want to record at, per second) set to 60, which is the maximum for RA2. If it's laggy, lower this value. 30 fps is still pretty decent.
  • DISABLE AERO for better performance.

 

 

I gave up on OBS Classic because sometimes it worked, and sometimes it didn't. I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong. But OBS Studio seems to work all the time for me.



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Posted 19 June 2016 - 07:50 AM

Thx  for the help firework :)



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Posted 19 June 2016 - 10:06 AM

Thx  for the help firework :)

No problems. Did it work? Is it laggy?



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Posted 20 June 2016 - 07:35 AM

Well i only get monitor capture to work



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Posted 20 June 2016 - 02:49 PM

Well i only get monitor capture to work

Make sure
-you're running OBS STUDIO as admin
-that the RA2 window is open and not minimized
-when you right click your RA2 Window Capture (or whatever you've named it under Sources), and click Properties, that you have 'Red Alert 2' selected next to the 'Window' drop-down box.
-to use OBS STUDIO, not the original OBS (because I can't get this to work properly either).

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Posted 21 June 2016 - 11:49 AM

My red alert 2 isnt windowed some how,i saved the -win behind the location ??

 

But i got window mode to work :)

 

And is this mode really faster then monitor mode ?

Coz it feels like its a little more laggy


Edited by Showtime, 21 June 2016 - 12:28 PM.


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Posted 21 June 2016 - 01:20 PM

My red alert 2 isnt windowed some how,i saved the -win behind the location ??

 

But i got window mode to work :)

 

And is this mode really faster then monitor mode ?

Coz it feels like its a little more laggy

I don't know tbh because for me the speed is the same either way. I'm not much of a streamer so I wouldn't know how to optimize it I'm afraid, I just know how to make it work.



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Posted 23 June 2016 - 01:52 AM

like fir3w0rx said it depends a lot on your hardware, even if ra2 is an old game, it requires quite some graphical power to play and stream a game, if you have just like a prebuild office pc then most likely there wont be an expensive gpu inside, wich most likely is the reason its not as fast as  you would like, or maybe your cpu, or combination of both.



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Posted 23 June 2016 - 02:55 AM

like fir3w0rx said it depends a lot on your hardware, even if ra2 is an old game, it requires quite some graphical power to play and stream a game, if you have just like a prebuild office pc then most likely there wont be an expensive gpu inside, wich most likely is the reason its not as fast as  you would like, or maybe your cpu, or combination of both.

Yeah, large screen resolutions and streaming didn't even exist on home computers yet back in 2000 when RA2 was released :D. Your internet's upload speed also affects the speed of your stream. I suggest to go to YouTube and search for something like "obs streaming lag fix" to maybe find some ways to improve your stream.

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Posted 23 June 2016 - 03:36 PM

Firework do u still play Zero hour ?

If so lets play?




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