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Poll: Ra2 QM points filter

Should the Ra2 Qm points filter be changed?

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#1 ZiGZaG

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Posted 18 February 2016 - 12:36 AM

As of late ive heard several people mention the points filter and given current activity level's i thought the subject merit's proper discussion.

 

Please give your thought's and opinion's on the matter in this topic.



#2 Niek

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Posted 18 February 2016 - 12:39 AM

It does not matter in my opinion ZiGZaG.



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Posted 18 February 2016 - 04:24 AM

I vote remove the pts filter 



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Posted 18 February 2016 - 06:33 AM

I think the pt filter should be removed after you have a certain amount of points, to prevent rank bashing.

I.e. after 150 pts or so you can match everyone higher than tou

Edited by ExpaNd, 18 February 2016 - 06:34 AM.


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Posted 18 February 2016 - 07:21 AM

remove



#6 Sustanon

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Posted 18 February 2016 - 07:42 AM

I say remove points filter, because it will increase QM activity.

But I also believe that every QM player in the world should vote and post their opinion about this.

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Posted 18 February 2016 - 12:48 PM

I say remove points filter, because it will increase QM activity.

But I also believe that every QM player in the world should vote and post their opinion about this.

 

decrease*

 

ppl will avoid even more than now, greeding/rankbusting on new accs. i know why you like the idea though.

 

imo adjust to like 300ptz range +/-.

removing with the current playerpool would be a disaster, i really cba matching with some lamer like alex for +1 who makes 17 accs every month.

especially if you're in series with a decent player and keep get matched with these would be pure pain.

QM should still be controlled, if ppl wanna play any player in any range they can use custom games.



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Posted 18 February 2016 - 03:34 PM

Removing the points filer will for sure increase QM activity, but if a player has 700 pts and connects a player who has 50 pts, then he risk to give 60 pts away, I would suggest Adjust the filter to allow a larger points difference between player's,

 because then a player who has 700 points can connect to someone who has 350 points or 300 points.



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Posted 18 February 2016 - 04:17 PM

Remove it?! So that top players can QM for 0 points? Why are people voting for this option?


This is the whole beauty of QM, in that you get matched with someone close to your skill level. Remove this, and QM becomes pointless.



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Posted 18 February 2016 - 06:22 PM

Don't think it should be removed entirely, didn't help yr and could annoy a lot of players. I think just make the range wider.

AFAIK the filter is still set at 8/10 x Player A +125< Player B

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Posted 18 February 2016 - 06:44 PM

Keep the filler at it is, just play tourney games or if someone stays long in the QM screen for 20+ seconds then they should be connected with someone with larger points diff if that is possible to make



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Posted 18 February 2016 - 06:55 PM

I like the mix of ideas in here. But although I think removing the filter completely would make for hella fun, it could get kind of annoying too after a while..

 

Increased point filter would work best imo.



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Posted 18 February 2016 - 07:38 PM

If it will be removed there are players who whatch top players go online. Then enter Qm with zero points to fuck up ranks.



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Posted 18 February 2016 - 08:23 PM

If it will be removed there are players who whatch top players go online. Then enter Qm with zero points to fuck up ranks.

Lol 



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Posted 18 February 2016 - 08:37 PM

Remove it?! So that top players can QM for 0 points? Why are people voting for this option?


This is the whole beauty of QM, in that you get matched with someone close to your skill level. Remove this, and QM becomes pointless.

+1



#16 ZiGZaG

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Posted 18 February 2016 - 09:18 PM

Remove it?! So that top players can QM for 0 points? Why are people voting for this option?


This is the whole beauty of QM, in that you get matched with someone close to your skill level. Remove this, and QM becomes pointless.

 

I didn't vote, but here's my two cents

 

Removal. - On yr when the point's filter was removed the amount of games played in qm increased at the time for around 6 month's but then declined to non-existent. It would have a similair effect at first on ra2, I think the only problem with this on Ra2 would be player's have access to too many nicknames resulting in a some players swapping to 0 pts nick's to try and steal points off higher ranked players. Yr however doesn't have the option of custom tournament games.

 

Adjusting the filter - This will probably slightly increase the amount of games played and make it a little easier for player's to get games in the meantime, however over time as activity further declines it would still become more and more difficult. 

 

Personally, i think the best system would be to remove the points filter whilst reducing the amount of nicknames a player can have in the ladder at one time, Id suggest three nicknames per player not per game account. I think this would result in more games being played and a more competitive ladder.

 

Thought's?

I think the pt filter should be removed after you have a certain amount of points, to prevent rank bashing.

I.e. after 150 pts or so you can match everyone higher than tou

This is a good idea



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Posted 18 February 2016 - 09:37 PM

u cant rly compare yr with ra2, iirc no filter was invented at a point where rank 1 had around 300-400ptz (ra2 has around 700-900ptz) and it actually had way less players than ra2 has now.

 

the only possible way to increase ra2 qm activity with no filter would be all the highranked players joining qm and playing all the noobs and ppl with multiple accounts, which would just be disgusting.

 

i dont think qm is a problem for lowrated players, because there is way more lowrated than highrated players, not to forget all the ppl who use multiple nicks.

my point is, if ppl wanted to play, theyd just join qm n do so, a non-filter wont increase anything.

while meanwhile removing filter will actually decrease activity bigtime in higher ranked games, because the ppl who alrdy are afraid to lose their points will be even more attracted/forced to keep creating new accounts because of the non filter.

 

the way ra2 xwis runs now, imo the best option would be to extend filter.

 

but as u mentioned (if possible) the very best would be to allow 1-2 accounts per month, the problem there is again ppl with multiple serials...

so in the end, easiest/fastest/best option = extend filter, give it a go n see how it works like.



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Posted 18 February 2016 - 10:18 PM

I envy your care and involvement about Red Alert 2, keep it up 



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Posted 18 February 2016 - 10:26 PM

u cant rly compare yr with ra2, iirc no filter was invented at a point where rank 1 had around 300-400ptz (ra2 has around 700-900ptz) and it actually had way less players than ra2 has now.

 

the only possible way to increase ra2 qm activity with no filter would be all the highranked players joining qm and playing all the noobs and ppl with multiple accounts, which would just be disgusting.

 

i dont think qm is a problem for lowrated players, because there is way more lowrated than highrated players, not to forget all the ppl who use multiple nicks.

my point is, if ppl wanted to play, theyd just join qm n do so, a non-filter wont increase anything.

while meanwhile removing filter will actually decrease activity bigtime in higher ranked games, because the ppl who alrdy are afraid to lose their points will be even more attracted/forced to keep creating new accounts because of the non filter.

 

the way ra2 xwis runs now, imo the best option would be to extend filter.

 

but as u mentioned (if possible) the very best would be to allow 1-2 accounts per month, the problem there is again ppl with multiple serials...

so in the end, easiest/fastest/best option = extend filter, give it a go n see how it works like.

The multiple serial's issue in this matter could be resolved I believe.



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Posted 18 February 2016 - 11:36 PM

Remove it.



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Posted 19 February 2016 - 12:55 AM

u dont even play Qm Martin



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Posted 19 February 2016 - 06:28 AM

The multiple serial's issue in this matter could be resolved I believe.

thought there was a forum rule, one account per person.

Player need's an account to link serial to

 

Correct me if I'am wrong.

 

9 nicks is enough I think, sorry if I'am going off topic


Edited by Enj0y, 19 February 2016 - 06:31 AM.


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Posted 19 February 2016 - 06:57 AM

how about changing the point system as a counter measure to widening the qm filter? people won't even need to bother starting qm until later in the month because of how easy it will be to gain points off higher ranked players with just a widened filter.



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Posted 19 February 2016 - 07:52 AM

remove it and lbl if u scred to lose ur points then dont do qm and stay in looby 



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Posted 19 February 2016 - 08:01 AM

u dont even play Martin

 

Fixed.




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