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#1 Mikoz

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Posted 14 December 2014 - 01:05 AM

Not much against Marsh, but the ppl who pushed him previous month to make him rank 1 deserve to be punished to maintain fair play in our ranked games ladder. This is pure ladderfixing in a month were mayb even prizes ( money ) are involved.  

 

http://xwis.net/ra2/prev/pl/voz/

 

http://xwis.net/ra2/prev/games/22672/

http://xwis.net/ra2/prev/games/22668/

http://xwis.net/ra2/prev/games/22663/

http://xwis.net/ra2/prev/games/22658/

http://xwis.net/ra2/prev/games/22655/

http://xwis.net/ra2/prev/games/22648/

http://xwis.net/ra2/prev/games/22643/

http://xwis.net/ra2/prev/games/22641/

 

Timeline :

00:30 - 00:38 - paf 3-0 daniel/boz to gain quick pts

00:44 - 00:50 - paf gives a quick 3-0 to marsh with his just promoted point total

00:54 - paf gives another 2 minute win to marsh on a lower nick ( cs16 )

00:57 - daniel/boz gives the last points to marsh to make him rank 1 on last seconds before freeze.

 

All the active players at ra2 noticed it and ive been advised many times to report this lately.

 

 



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Posted 14 December 2014 - 01:35 AM

Yes I admit, I did it. Not admitting this to avoid any warning/ban. Mikoz have been avoiding to play me in 1on1 for some time now, many other good players I know, they say complain about the same thing. Everyone knows that I've never cheated in ra2, regardless if someone refuses to play or not, dosen't justify the pushing. There is no apology for pushing, but still I wanna apologize for it.


Edited by mzjpk, 14 December 2014 - 01:38 AM.


#3 Mikoz

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Posted 14 December 2014 - 01:41 AM

[/url]">http://paf_ss2.jpg

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I hope november HOF placings could be reconsidered.


Edited by Mikoz, 14 December 2014 - 02:08 AM.


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Posted 14 December 2014 - 01:45 AM

[/url]">http://paf_ss2.jpg

[/url]">http://paf_ss3.jpg

[/url]">http://pafss4.jpg

 

I hope november HOF placings could be reconsidered.

It will, no need to take ss. I already made a post where I admitted. At least I can admit my mistakes by this I don't mean that I'm better than you. Many people don't admit their mistakes, I'm not like them.


Edited by mzjpk, 14 December 2014 - 01:46 AM.


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Posted 14 December 2014 - 02:06 AM

Mikoz have been avoiding to play me in 1on1 for some time now, many other good players I know, they say complain about the same thing. 

You are only mad cause i started to get annoyed from ur endless low pts nicks.

Im the most active player atm and everyone can get games from me also you :

http://xwis.net/ra2/prev/games/20105/

http://xwis.net/ra2/prev/games/20103/

http://xwis.net/ra2/prev/games/20100/

http://xwis.net/ra2/prev/games/20098/

The fact that i also play weaker enemies is only cause i want to keep this a bit active and sometimes these are the only games i can get.

The month before i even played marsh bo5 on last day and lost rank1 just before freeze.

 

Good that u feel regret but dont make up lies about me to cover your lame actions.



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Posted 14 December 2014 - 02:09 AM

You are only mad cause i started to get annoyed from ur endless low pts nicks.

Im the most active player atm and everyone can get games from me also you :

http://xwis.net/ra2/prev/games/20105/

http://xwis.net/ra2/prev/games/20103/

http://xwis.net/ra2/prev/games/20100/

http://xwis.net/ra2/prev/games/20098/

The fact that i also play weaker enemies is only cause i want to keep this a bit active and sometimes these are the only games i can get.

The month before i even played marsh bo5 on last day and lost rank1 just before freeze.

 

Good that u feel regret but dont make up lies about me to cover your lame actions.

I'm not mad, have you thought about why I'm on endless pts nicks? I made new nicks and come on them with low pts, because you avoid to play me series on main nicks. Many players told me this as well, that even if they have more pointes than you. Yet you avoid to play them, so stop this nonsense okay? Bye


Edited by mzjpk, 14 December 2014 - 02:10 AM.


#7 Mikoz

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Posted 14 December 2014 - 02:24 AM

I want to end with the fact that my goal is not to bann these 2 players, at the end we need everyone to keep this game a bit active.

If they promise to everyone to not do it again and the pushed games could be erased from previous ladder + outcome alot of things would already be solved. however something needs to be done to let this not happen again in the future.


Edited by Mikoz, 14 December 2014 - 02:41 AM.


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Posted 14 December 2014 - 03:00 PM

^^WIP^^

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Posted 14 December 2014 - 03:19 PM

i cant control if paf rushes and quits when I block his rush, daniel56 however just quit which was not my intention, I actually complained about it figuring you would post, remove me from hof, makes no big deal to me, thanks



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Posted 14 December 2014 - 04:50 PM

 I want to clarify. I spoke with matt and I thought me going germany to make it easier was "push". I did go germany to make it easier but I still tried to win the game. Other players go germany also when they know it is weaker team to make it more of a challenge. Sov players also go allies sometimes to make it more a challenge. Is this push if you still try to win? 

 

1 thing I forgot to add, in this game http://xwis.net/ra2/prev/games/22655/minutes before the rank reset, I did try to win him and was even close to win, watch the ss for this game, I had low pts 310 and marsh had 700 pts . He was close to lose 60 pts, http://xwis.net/ra2/screenshots/6077822/ in this screenshot he was green and I was pink. As you can see for yourself he was about to lose. I had only 1 miner, ran out of eco and some how his ref survived and i lost. He would had never got that rank 1 by losing 60 pointes, minutes before the rank reset. My intention was not 100% to push him. If you look at it from bigger picture.

 
Also daniel lost 0-3 to superpro also? Why is him losing to me a push? If he wanted to give me pts he would not lose 0-3 to superpro before he plays me. He also lost 0-3 to mikoz before that. So is he push for mikoz also?
 

I been on xwis but the rules are still confusing to me so admins can tell me what is the truth to pushing. Also, while mikoz is mad that marsh got rank 1, how come he refuse to play marsh and other top players? s. But like i said before I am a confused by what people say is "pushing" now but from what matt told me I dont think it is a push. i did go germany but i go germany against mikoz also many times and i still won some of the games. In dry heat I've won him a lot as germany vs his soviet.


Edited by mzjpk, 15 December 2014 - 04:51 PM.


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Posted 05 February 2015 - 11:12 PM

After careful analysis it's clear paf's action's have resulted in a manipulation of the ladder, causing marsh, instead of mikoz to win the ladder.

With this bieng sayed there is no evidence of an arranged push between players and to penalise marsh would also be unfair.

After careful consideration the following course of action will be taken.

Marsh and Mikoz to play Best of five for November rank 1.

Paf banned for 32 days due to manipulating the outcome of the ladder by giving free wins.

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Posted 06 February 2015 - 02:04 AM

Great analysis and ruling Jason!

still mad about yesterday? ^^, to XWIS Staff. I've already regretted  back in november about this. I'm known for being fair player and who never cheat. See you all in a month



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Posted 06 February 2015 - 04:57 AM

it would have to be done on a sunday, map pool ect would be cool, idm it being streamed at all



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Posted 06 February 2015 - 01:54 PM

REMINDER: Do NOT post in cheat reports unless you're directly involved.


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