I just used a waypoint from ifv to get a spy in against Olaf. Not only did he insta-quit, but he also sent me a specially tailored message which now appears when I log in: "Haven't you been warned before using such bug abuse? All bugs are 'part of the game'."
How am I supposed to know what constitutes bug abuse? If it's not allowed, why did the game designers make it possible? Am I in the wrong or is Olaf just crying because he knew he was beaten?
Discuss, Olaf your opinion is welcome too.
My special message from olaf
Started by DryFeet, Jun 25 2014 08:16 PM
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#6
Posted 25 June 2014 - 09:56 PM
Just crying obviously..Sigh, what kind of discussion do you expect when you start like this?Of course not, these games are known to be bug free.
How could I be crying? I won. Don't be silly.
I can think of 1 obvious bug in ra2 and yr, which i won't mention here (I'm sure you know what I mean). Other than that, how can you tell what's a bug and what isn't? Who decides?
#9
Posted 25 June 2014 - 10:46 PM
How could I be crying? I won. Don't be silly.I can think of 1 obvious bug in ra2 and yr, which i won't mention here (I'm sure you know what I mean). Other than that, how can you tell what's a bug and what isn't? Who decides?
Perhaps he was admitting he was just sore. You asked 'just crying?' He responded just crying. Seems clear. We've all had regrettable moments, yes?
#10
Posted 25 June 2014 - 10:53 PM
Perhaps he was admitting he was just sore. You asked 'just crying?' He responded just crying. Seems clear. We've all had regrettable moments, yes?
...In the same post he clearly responded facetiously to another comment. I don't think it's clear at all.
My two cents: I don't consider it a bug.
Edited by Seke, 25 June 2014 - 10:54 PM.
#11
Posted 26 June 2014 - 02:33 AM
I just used a waypoint from ifv to get a spy in against Olaf. Not only did he insta-quit, but he also sent me a specially tailored message which now appears when I log in: "Haven't you been warned before using such bug abuse? All bugs are 'part of the game'."
How am I supposed to know what constitutes bug abuse? If it's not allowed, why did the game designers make it possible? Am I in the wrong or is Olaf just crying because he knew he was beaten?
Discuss, Olaf your opinion is welcome too.
I don't know if it should be considered a bannable bug or not but here's my 2 cents.
The game designers didn't exactly let you waypoint into an ifv and a building. There's a "trick" to waypoint Engies+Spies into IFV to directly capture/infiltrate a building. So you're messing with what they intended for, that's considered a 'bug'. It's the same thing as deploying desos on the bridge. It's a bug and even though you can do it, the game designers didn't intend for a deso to hide under a bridge while deployed. Hell, you can even spy your own lab and im pretty sure that wasn't intended.
IMO, sometimes bugs/glitches make games more challenging and skillful, other times it makes it easier. In Halo 2, there was glitches that only really skilled players could pull off consistently. When Halo 3 came out, people hated that those glitches were removed.
With ra2 though, that's not the case. Seems like some of those bugs, if abused, can almost be like cheating.
Edited by Edd, 26 June 2014 - 02:35 AM.
#14
Posted 26 June 2014 - 10:47 AM
I think the original stigma with waypointing units out of either an IFV or a flak trak came with map hackers who would engineer rush. Going to Game Spy and being able to determine that a unit exited the vehicle, however, that unit never achieved a "wait" status. It went directly to "move" which could have revealed that a map hack was in use, because a player would have had to scout in order to achieve this.
The use of waypoints on spies never really achieve this status, because i most every case, the opponents base would have been scouted by this time.
And while waypointed units are surely a pain in the ass. If it is considered a bug abuse, there are quite a few people who would have to change their ways.
#20
Posted 26 June 2014 - 10:07 PM
If it's not allowed, why did the game designers make it possible?
They didn't specifically make it possible, bugs are errors or inconsistencies that appear due to imperfect code inside of the game.
Meaning not all possible outcomes or abuse was thought of during the game's development and it's features.
If the way-point system was meant to be used in such a manner that allowed players to way-point a unit into a transport and then specify a target on the unit's departure from the transport, then the way-point system would simply allow you to select the unit, order it to go into the transport and then click on a target, to attack, capture or infiltrate, but that's not possible.
Instead the way-point path is terminated after giving the order to board a transport and no future orders are allowed, unless you find a glitch to abuse to allow you to give the way-pointed unit additional orders. Which is what you are doing.
Edited by FReQuEnZy, 26 June 2014 - 10:08 PM.
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