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#1 dsector

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Posted 03 November 2013 - 01:12 AM

Why do some maps appear twice in the control panel QM map pool?

 

Depth Charge (no idea why there's two)

Snow Valley (shouldn't the buggy version be removed completely? Both versions are set to standard)

Cold War (shouldn't the buggy version be removed completely?)

Alaskan Oil Spill (no idea why there's two)

 

Why is Defcon 6 a standard map when Allies have very little chance of winning vs a good soviet player? Shouldn't this be mirrored?

 

Hammer and Sickle, A vs S should always have Super Weapons ON. What can a soviet do vs a good allied player that controls the water and camps with tanya near bridge?

 

Why is such a bad map like Isle of War standard? I don't think I ever had a good game on that map. It's either a rush that works half the time or camping until someone attacks and loses.

 

I know there is / was a fixed version of May Day. Why doesn't that replace the standard May Day in QM?

 

I think these should all be taken care of to make the QM experience better for all.

 

 

 

 

 



#2 rumblesom

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Posted 03 November 2013 - 02:02 AM

Not everyone has the new maps.

Depth is included for battle mode games in custom matches, same with Alaskan oil spill
As far as I know they do not count as duplicates in the matching pool

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Posted 03 November 2013 - 03:01 AM

Ah ok thanks for the clarification.

 

If someone has the new maps, can we make it so that the bugged Snow Valley and Cold War get taken out of QM? Or at least make the bugged ones non standard and the fixed ones standard.



#4 rumblesom

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Posted 03 November 2013 - 03:23 AM

same for those, afaik



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Posted 03 November 2013 - 03:50 AM

Why do some maps appear twice in the control panel QM map pool?

 

Depth Charge (no idea why there's two)

Snow Valley (shouldn't the buggy version be removed completely? Both versions are set to standard)

Cold War (shouldn't the buggy version be removed completely?)

Alaskan Oil Spill (no idea why there's two)

 

Why is Defcon 6 a standard map when Allies have very little chance of winning vs a good soviet player? Shouldn't this be mirrored?

 

Hammer and Sickle, A vs S should always have Super Weapons ON. What can a soviet do vs a good allied player that controls the water and camps with tanya near bridge?

 

Why is such a bad map like Isle of War standard? I don't think I ever had a good game on that map. It's either a rush that works half the time or camping until someone attacks and loses.

 

I know there is / was a fixed version of May Day. Why doesn't that replace the standard May Day in QM?

 

I think these should all be taken care of to make the QM experience better for all.

This is a must. good thinking.



#6 dsector

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Posted 03 November 2013 - 04:34 AM

same for those, afaik

I got matched on the buggy version of Snow Valley even though I have the new maps.



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Posted 03 November 2013 - 04:39 AM

did your opponent have them?



#8 dsector

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Posted 03 November 2013 - 04:42 AM

Yes.



#9 rumblesom

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Posted 03 November 2013 - 05:00 AM

ok- I'll ask about it. That shouldn't happen



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Posted 03 November 2013 - 08:20 AM

thin ice, little piece of island, dry heat, valley of gems, and urban rush should all be mirror only imo.



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Posted 03 November 2013 - 01:39 PM

I got matched on the buggy version of Snow Valley even though I have the new maps.

 

Same. The balance for maps is gone to crap. What happened after the last time we finished the Qm renovation Josh?



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Posted 03 November 2013 - 09:56 PM

thin ice, little piece of island, dry heat, valley of gems, and urban rush should all be mirror only imo.

disagree with last 3


to dsector,

 

whats bugged on may day?



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Posted 04 November 2013 - 01:50 AM

disagree with last 3


to dsector,

 

whats bugged on may day?

  Try some1 like tim on those maps.. u get r@ped



#14 dsector

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Posted 04 November 2013 - 02:07 AM

whats bugged on may day?

TL oils blow up together when you destroy one.



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Posted 04 November 2013 - 04:06 AM

TL oils blow up together when you destroy one.

 

yeah that position sucks, but I don't necessariyl think its bugged

 

edit**

 

ever try playing qm on YR? any map with a barrel next to the derrick blows them all up................... cold war for example was just stupid


  Try some1 like tim on those maps.. u get r@ped

 

i think i could take him on any of those maps


Edited by Seke, 04 November 2013 - 04:05 AM.


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Posted 04 November 2013 - 10:38 AM

 

i think i could take him on any of those maps

maybe, but soviets have a big advantage on them.



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Posted 04 November 2013 - 06:52 PM

thin ice, little piece of island, dry heat, valley of gems, and urban rush should all be mirror only imo.

 

disagree. 

 

all types are ok on these maps in my opinion. 



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Posted 04 November 2013 - 07:12 PM

disagree. 

 

all types are ok on these maps in my opinion. 

We all understand ur high level allies bro... but u abuse this power and say nonsensical things to try to boost ur mystical image of allied skills. (I know this cuz I do it too).But the truth is that the sovs are overpowered, especially on the maps I listed.  You think because u can smack mid-tier sov players the maps are legit.  Play vs some1 at ur own level and u stand no chance vs sovs. 



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Posted 04 November 2013 - 11:27 PM

yeah that position sucks, but I don't necessariyl think its bugged

 

edit**

 

ever try playing qm on YR? any map with a barrel next to the derrick blows them all up................... cold war for example was just stupid


 

i think i could take him on any of those maps

 

I tryed to see if this could be fixed when we did yr renovation we couldnt do it unfortunatly :(



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Posted 05 November 2013 - 12:42 AM

maybe, but soviets have a big advantage on them.

 

they can have an advantage, but its ra2 and one misclick and you lost ur advatnage



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Posted 05 November 2013 - 12:57 AM

they can have an advantage, but its ra2 and one misclick and you lost ur advatnage

Then let's through every map in qm! Theoretically, every faction has a chance of winning on every map as long as the opponent miss-clicks!



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Posted 05 November 2013 - 01:10 AM

they can have an advantage, but its ra2 and one misclick and you lost ur advatnage

 

 

Then let's through every map in qm! Theoretically, every faction has a chance of winning on every map as long as the opponent miss-clicks!

 

 

And this is exactly my basis for saying that the players shouldn't be allowed to vote on this, unless they are able to stay unbiased and not take the WHAT IF factor into count. 

 

So it should be left to people who know what they are doing.

 

 

I wrote a lengthy post here on factual & proven methods : http://xwis.net/forums/index.php/topic/179251-changes-to-ra2-map-list-november-2013/?p=1550769


Edited by FReQuEnZy, 05 November 2013 - 01:12 AM.


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Posted 05 November 2013 - 01:29 AM

And this is exactly my basis for saying that the players shouldn't be allowed to vote on this, unless they are able to stay unbiased and not take the WHAT IF factor into count. 

 

So it should be left to people who know what they are doing.

 

 

I haven't voted, and i will not.

Balance need to be referred to logic not opinions.

 

For the peoples who say soviets overpower allied----> get some skills.

Maybe there are some maps in favor of sovs because they're too small, well if a map isn't fair then just delete it, editing it so it suits allied is non sens.



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Posted 05 November 2013 - 01:36 AM

Then let's through every map in qm! Theoretically, every faction has a chance of winning on every map as long as the opponent miss-clicks!

 

exactly, i want all maps in qm



#25 rumblesom

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Posted 05 November 2013 - 03:05 AM

anyone who uses the qm (without cheating) should have the right to vote. 




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