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#1 fir3w0rx

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 09:18 AM

Is it ever a good idea to build a refinery before your barracks?

Edited by fir3w0rx, 13 April 2012 - 09:19 AM.


#2 hardman

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 09:36 AM

no. You will not really gain anything by getting maybe one more ore load (at most) before barracks would be ready any way

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 09:37 AM

yeah in toe lol for spot 3 and 6 so u build eagles quicker lol!

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 09:43 AM

I dont consinder TOE with noob rules a true scenario!

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 09:45 AM

@sovforce1

i think its not even lol your idea, since you will gain faster money, have quicker airplanes and you can scout harras early on with them, as korea on maps without oils or such it probably works, but for any other team or map its not good, since you need sight as soon as possible to know what to do and see what ur opponent is doing, especially on oil maps

Edited by Tomi, 13 April 2012 - 09:46 AM.


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Posted 13 April 2012 - 10:03 AM

i would say the only time to do ref before barrack is when credits are on 5000

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 10:48 AM

Not to mention a lot of the time you need the rax to stretch to the ore field

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 11:04 AM

Is it ever a good idea to build a refinery before your barracks?


When you map its the perfect bo. Else it sucks, sight is more important than money from the start.

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 02:33 PM

IF you're cool if enough for super early para AcidTank Style =D

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 04:37 PM

@sovforce1

i think its not even lol your idea, since you will gain faster money, have quicker airplanes and you can scout harras early on with them, as korea on maps without oils or such it probably works, but for any other team or map its not good, since you need sight as soon as possible to know what to do and see what ur opponent is doing, especially on oil maps


Non forgetting you need to stretch and see the map to place well your first ref on certain maps

When you map its the perfect bo. Else it sucks, sight is more important than money from the start.


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#11 DryFeet

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Posted 15 April 2012 - 11:43 PM

On naval maps, why not?

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Posted 22 April 2012 - 09:05 AM

Id tried it on Def 6. Move after power then go for ref. U kinda know where your opponent is so i find it pretty good. Any thoughts?

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Posted 22 April 2012 - 10:13 AM

Since you can't scout/antiscout, I say your still in disadvantatge vs him and open for sneaky attacks (engi) for that period of time.

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Posted 22 April 2012 - 10:55 AM

Non forgetting you need to stretch and see the map to place well your first ref on certain maps



+1


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Since you can't scout/antiscout, I say your still in disadvantatge vs him and open for sneaky attacks (engi) for that period of time.


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Posted 06 May 2012 - 12:28 AM

Is it ever a good idea to build a refinery before your barracks?

If you start with one unit*
If it's a 2v2 and your close enough to your ally for him to scout for you*
If you know the map, and have a specific tactic*
If you are building off of your ally in a 2v2 (he can scout)*

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Posted 06 May 2012 - 12:32 AM

The only time i have try to do refinery before barracks was on naval map with Sov V Sov, if i remember good i got time after for making engineers But that's the only situation where i have think about it :p

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Posted 16 May 2012 - 08:43 AM

do it in any ffg where you have gems / units / no oils



IMO i actually think its ok to do it if ur tr on hammer and repack to gems at start but i could be wrong

Edited by Walter, 16 May 2012 - 08:43 AM.



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