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[zMarsHz]

hmm i'm not trying to impersonate anyone, search the word tbiol and you will find 17,300 in .22 seconds, and for kilers you find over 1 million hits in less than .22 of a sec....

have you found a chat log of me saying i was either the clan or the person?.....i suggest that you take away this message as i broke no rules of xwis, i am not impersonating anyone, especially an admin. Nor have i played any games with either the clan or the nick, i suggest you start targeting the **** that have nick names like OlafSpek and stoles names like Dasolator Desolatr so on and so forth, get you ****ing priorities in order.....or readjust your rules.

this is full proof that admins have favored some online friend of theirs as KillerCam and tbiol cried when i decided to use my nick name in a game vs them to get a few laughs....a total of 45 people and you're worried about someone giving another a bad name? lol.

verbatim of Xwis rules.....

Unsuitable Nicknames & clan names
Unsuitable names will be deleted. These include nicknames & clan names that are profane, racist, or impersonating an XWIS admin. If your nickname is deleted you will lose any points earned on it in that month.

since when was tbiol an admin or the clan kilers an admin?


i bid you a good day


btw for whoever sent me this message, it takes time to delete nick names, you should know this.

perhaps for the sake to save us all trouble, i'll change the clan, and make my name tbioi, that is not an impersonation

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Edited by WorstNightmare, 20 July 2011 - 03:07 AM.

[Seke]

what happened?

[XaudiTT]

About stealing or copying admin's names I agree with you. Rules are clear in that sense. About semi-cloning other nicks I think there's nothing wrong: i a great player is called "tomislav" and I make "tomIsl4v" , well, I think I don't break any rule...

[Olaf]

hmm i'm not trying to impersonate anyone

Then why are you copying someone's nicks?

[aFFGonHeK]

Anything to do with me just seeing papsarmy online? With -ef- clan next to his name as well?

Surely if paps were on he would be posting on here too. Thought he was just a mod and not an admin. I'm probably wrong though. Either way your nicks are always annoying marsh ^^

[tbiol]

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Edited by tbiol, 20 July 2011 - 07:34 PM.

[zMarsHz]

what happened?

nerds cry when someone imitates a nick name.

About stealing or copying admin's names I agree with you. Rules are clear in that sense. About semi-cloning other nicks I think there's nothing wrong: i a great player is called "tomislav" and I make "tomIsl4v" , well, I think I don't break any rule...

+1 this is just proof that admins favor others.

Then why are you copying someone's nicks?

i can give you a few reasons to say the least, unfortunately you lack the ability to do anything about the bailing process, unless you are the one bailed, so the players have to find their own creative way to prevent bailing, i use my nick name MarsH for instances, i get bailed by a lot of people once i reach the 500 pts range, some in fear of losing, others in fear of being lamed, ect and so on.....you use a nick like tbioi with a capital I and people think to themselves, "HEY I CAN BEAT TBIOL QUITE EASILY! I WILL PLAY HIM" then i get a bo5 qm with someone who otherwise wouldn't have played me, perhaps you do something about the bailing instead of crying over a silly issue such as this and i will possibly stop copying nick names, i also have iive0rdie which is a dead rip off of live0rdie (tomi's nick name) he never cried about it, is this why i was never forced to delete it? or is it that you do not favor tomi, so you're less likely to give a damn about him over your friends of the community, btw, for what it's worth, i have done far more for this community than tbiol, so i laugh at the fact of this.

is that a sufficient enough answer for you sir?

Anything to do with me just seeing papsarmy online? With -ef- clan next to his name as well?

Surely if paps were on he would be posting on here too. Thought he was just a mod and not an admin. I'm probably wrong though. Either way your nicks are always annoying marsh ^^

this is just another example of the favoritism that xwis admins will play and then they sit back wondering how to gain activity.

yes my nick names are quite annoying to say the very least, but in the stand point of everything, if i am on a copy nick do i not tell non-bailing players like yourself who i am?


and to Tboil, yes i spelled it wrong, i have nothing more to say to you than, grow the **** up, it's an online video game, no one has stolen your identity i assure you that your credit cards will not be used and that your girlfriend will no be seduced by a look alike impostor!

yes i have made this a public issue, you should have, but it looks as in the odds of the community i have done nothing but merely **** you and your mate off, you knew it was me on tbioi because i let you know. and you still probably went out of your way to write a ****ing book of a report to a Strike Team Police Man, after i told you and cam that it was an anti bailing measure of mine.....

and to the community in doubt on my stand point, well i believe it's time for you to speak out! ARREST ANYONE THAT CARRIES THE SAME NAME AS YOU.....i'm sure i'm not the only alex pardee in the world, and i'm sure olaf van der spek isn't the only olaf van der spek in the world, and i'm sure there is someone with the very same name as you.

[Olaf]

nerds cry when someone imitates a nick name.

Can't you stay polite and have a normal discussion?

i can give you a few reasons to say the least, unfortunately you lack the ability to do anything about the bailing process, unless you are the one bailed, so the players have to find their own creative way to prevent bailing, i use my nick name MarsH for instances, i get bailed by a lot of people once i reach the 500 pts range, some in fear of losing, others in fear of being lamed, ect and so on.....you use a nick like tbioi with a capital I and people think to themselves, "HEY I CAN BEAT TBIOL QUITE EASILY! I WILL PLAY HIM" then i get a bo5 qm with someone who otherwise wouldn't have played me, perhaps you do something about the bailing instead of crying over a silly issue such as this and i will possibly stop copying nick names, i also have iive0rdie which is a dead rip off of live0rdie (tomi's nick name) he never cried about it, is this why i was never forced to delete it? or is it that you do not favor tomi, so you're less likely to give a damn about him over your friends of the community, btw, for what it's worth, i have done far more for this community than tbiol, so i laugh at the fact of this.

is that a sufficient enough answer for you sir?

It does explain the action but I'm not sure it justifies it.

[zMarsHz]

Can't you stay polite and have a normal discussion?

It does explain the action but I'm not sure it justifies it.

i can stay polite, me and you both know this olaf, i'm intelligent and i have a point behind everything i do. he is crying over absolutely nothing, and i'm shocked that you even wasted your time dealing with this matter vs me on something that isn't against your written xwis rules.

what does it need to justify? it's an anti bailing precaution like i've already stated, i use the nick, less likely to be bailed, justified. i don't know what more justification you need, when there a fools running a muck on your server impersonating admins ect, but you waste to the time to message me about a nick name in which is totally legal by xwis standards all because of some cry baby who takes this so serious he feels like he is have some sort of identity theft....like i said i'm sure he isn't the only person with the nick name tbiol in the history of video games and that guy doesn't own a trade mark on tbiol, so therefore this is all the justification i would need in a court of law am i right? this isn't defamation of character....

and look olaf i'm not trying to nit pick with you, however i feel you are nit picking at me....i am just stating the facts, i'm not looking for some big show on the help forum, so if you'd rather discuss this in private we can as long as i'm able to message or we do it via msn, until further notice i'll reply back to forums.

Edited by WorstNightmare, 20 July 2011 - 04:51 PM.

[NeoGrant]

Either way you look at it its not a justified reason IMO. Especially since its now publicized there's no reason to have the nick, however on the other hand, not everyone uses this forum. Behind everyone's backs you could be chatting rubbish, which would represent tbiol's rep and not yours.

Personally regardless of rules, if a player feels they have been wrongly impersonated the nick should be deleted upon his or her request. If the player doesn't mind, its not an issue..

Whether the reason for it is bailing, and is justified or not, its still wrongly representing someone your not. Why can't you see that?

Edited by neogrant, 20 July 2011 - 05:27 PM.

[Olaf]

Calling someone nerds, crybabies, talking **** etc is not what I call being polite. Not having a rule that says this isn't good doesn't mean it's a good thing to do. What you're doing is impersonation.
If you want to avoid bailing, just make up a nick or clan, don't copy someone else's.

[tbiol]

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Edited by tbiol, 20 July 2011 - 07:35 PM.

[tbiol]

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Edited by tbiol, 20 July 2011 - 07:34 PM.

[tbiol]

Just thought of this. And it made all other post irrelevent.

If this is an anti bailing matter, why do you need the kiiers clan?

That's the question that needs to be answered.....If you are Quick Matching, where someone can bail you, why do you need the clan name?

And as is stated earlier....that is a suffiecient remedy.

Everything else you've said is bs, if you don't have a valid answer for this. Unless, it was only meant for a laugh. In which case lose the clan, and we are good. With the clan name, you are not able to tell the difference in the lobby.

Edited by tbiol, 20 July 2011 - 07:36 PM.

[Seke]

I don't think Marsh should be forced to delete his nickname.

[zMarsHz]

Calling someone nerds, crybabies, talking **** etc is not what I call being polite. Not having a rule that says this isn't good doesn't mean it's a good thing to do. What you're doing is impersonation.
If you want to avoid bailing, just make up a nick or clan, don't copy someone else's.

i could find better chosen words of course, but the general population wouldn't understand them so why bother, the fact is that they are whining over nothing so big. that making a new nick works until about the point you reach a record of 26-2....then the bailing starts, with the nick being a copy no one will be able to know which tbiol it was.

this has spiraled into too much trouble seeing on how i changed my nickname, but will you do me the honor, of telling me i'm not wrong, i just want my point across that i was singled out for something because another player COMPLAINED about a nick name he doesn't own a trademark for......

can i suggest we set up a nickname trademark company for ra2, i'm sure the profit will exceed expectations.

and don't get me wrong, no disrespect to you, i'm sure you found it quite bothersome to get probably 30 pages of ramble from tbiol until you had no choice but send me that message.

Just thought of this. And it made all other post irrelevent.

If this is an anti bailing matter, why do you need the kiiers clan?

That's the question that needs to be answered.....If you are Quick Matching, where someone can bail you, why do you need the clan name?

And as is stated earlier....that is a suffiecient remedy.

Everything else you've said is bs, if you don't have a valid answer for this. Unless, it was only meant for a laugh. In which case lose the clan, and we are good. With the clan name, you are not able to tell the difference in the lobby.

your point is irrelevant, you shouldn't speak unless you have something useful to say, i ask for qm a lot in lobby, when someone see tbiol in no clan kilers they will know i'm obviously a fake tbiol, now you've learned your lesson, so edit your post to be some more dots and try not to get involved.

I don't think Marsh should be forced to delete his nickname.

well the general population agrees with this, but it's pointless to argue with anyone who will just take the game away from you if you don't abide by the non existent rules.

and as for Neogrant, well man i have nothing to say really but you're not an admin, you're just like the pre-admin, a helper, and the rules are placed there by an admin for reasons, maybe you get fire under them to change the rules to what you see fit, we can chalk it up with the tournaments and such that never happened.

Edited by WorstNightmare, 20 July 2011 - 08:44 PM.

[tbiol]

your point is irrelevant, you shouldn't speak unless you have something useful to say, i ask for qm a lot in lobby, when someone see tbiol in no clan kilers they will know i'm obviously a fake tbiol, now you've learned your lesson, so edit your post to be some more dots and try not to get involved.

The mere idiocy of this statement, YOU ASK FOR A QM IN THE LOBBY.....Thus nullifying the idea of a QUICK MATCH. this by definition is a CUSTOM MATCH.

Maybe you should edit your posts into dots, because they may make more sense.

it's an anti bailing precaution like i've already stated, i use the nick, less likely to be bailed

This statement of yours makes my statement relevent.

Don't shove your 'better than all' attitude in my face Marsh. It accomplishes nothing.

[zMarsHz]

The mere idiocy of this statement, YOU ASK FOR A QM IN THE LOBBY.....Thus nullifying the idea of a QUICK MATCH. this by definition is a CUSTOM MATCH.

Maybe you should edit your posts into dots, because they may make more sense.




This statement of yours makes my statement relevent.

Don't shove your 'better than all' attitude in my face Marsh. It accomplishes nothing.

only better than someone who cares so much of a nick name on ra2.

[tbiol]

only better than someone who cares so much of a nick name on ra2.

Maybe if you were able to mind you manners a little better.

But you still haven't answered the question.

If you are Quick Matching, where someone can bail you, why do you need the clan name?

I've already stated that eliminating the clan name was an acceptable compromise. And be sure to use the proper definition of a quick match. Not your QM in the lobby.
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And Mason, I respect your opinion, so I'll pose this question. If he is able to keep the nick, what about the clan name.
Because they are two separate questions.
If he says that he's doing it for qm, then he doesn't need the clan name.

I'm not saying he's going to act like a complete idiot, but I'm sure it wouldn't take me long to find 100 posts of Marsh flaming someone in these forums. So it was a precautionary measure.

His conspiracy theory about me buddying up with the admins to single him out are ridiculous.....he singled me out, not the other way around. He put me into a reactionary mode. I flat out told him "i don't like this" It's not like I was sitingt in my chair clasping my hands together and think to myself, oh how can I get Marsh back for this. After he basically ignored me, I requested/complained that someone look into it. They agreed that he over stepped his bounds.

Edited by tbiol, 20 July 2011 - 09:21 PM.

[zMarsHz]

His conspiracy theory about me buddying up with the admins to single him out are ridiculous.....he singled me out, not the other way around. He put me into a reactionary mode. I flat out told him "i don't like this" It's not like I was sitingt in my chair clasping my hands together and think to myself, oh how can I get Marsh back for this. After he basically ignored me, I requested/complained that someone look into it. They agreed that he over stepped his bounds.

do you own a trademark on the nickname tbiol?

if the answer is yes, i'm absolutely wrong and i'm sorry

if the answer is no, everyone else is in the wrong, and i'm right.

what's your answer?

[Olaf]

This isn't about trademarks.

[Seke]

why can't he keep the clan name aswell?

[tbiol]

making a new nick works until about the point you reach a record of 26-2....then the bailing starts, with the nick being a copy no one will be able to know which tbiol it was.

This statement here means you are affecting me. If you are complaining about people bailing you, then why should I have to suffer because you have confused people. They will now bail both of us. So now you have subjected me to the treatment that you supposedly are trying to stop. Does this seem unfair to you?

Furthermore, you are clearly stating that your intentions are to impersonate me.

[rumblesom]

no question the nick should be deleted and tbiol should be able to keep his reputation intact. I find mason's defense of marsh particularily hypocritical since mason has often complained about how marsh handles defeat (or even after the slightest bit of what marsh would consider an injustice). Fact is marsh cries and flames after losses (yes i sometimes do too, marsh) and i've never seen tbiol do this. And no offense to tbiol, but at rank 10 or w.e and 26-2 does anyone mistake tbioi and tbiol? The bailing argument is hogwash anyway- u can make a random noob nick and get games till 26-2. then when billygun3 or w/e slaps me hard after a qm, do u really think I'll continue to believe it might be some random noob? So tbioi gets the first game, stomps his unsuspecting opponent and then is just as likely as billygun3, MarsH or tbioi to get bailed.

[KilerCam]

This is rediculous. Marsh has talked trash to me he doesnt like me. He made that clear on cnc. The point is I dont want him in my clan. So i dont want him impersenating my clan. It would be different if a clan member did this to joke about another clan member. But when you put that next to your nick and you have the clan kiiers you now look like one of us but now you dont care about your rep. Why should i let you look like one of us and ruin our rep.

The point is there is a reason i have never let you in the clan You have a bad attitude your way to cocky but when someone comes to just talk to you. all you know to do is down that person. I DO NOT WANT THAT PERSON TO REPRESENT MY CLAN. so like i asked in the game please remove your clan. Thanks.

Really? this is rediculous.

http://xwis.net/ra2/clans/kiIers/