regardless, the alting/bug abuse thing was never cleared up. st cant ban it b/c there is no way of CATEGORICALLY proving it
It was cleared up. Riz said that alting is not bug abuse and was intentionally made by the game designer. You can have a different opinion about that, which I believe it or not share that opinion, but it is clear as a polished diamant that it is allowed by xwis. You can only stop that by trying to counter it ingame, but complaining that alting should be punished is simply useless, and especially b/c we got a laming administrator (Olaf).
in the same way as miner bugging cant be fully proved. imo, they are both bug abuse but st wont say that both are bug abuse b/c that would be stupid as they cant prove beyond all doubt (no matter how small) either.
Miner glitching is clearly proved in the video of marko, no doubt about it. On top of that Sunny confessed it. Unless Jr putted a gun against Sunny's head and forced Sunny to tell that he miner glitched, I don't see any reason to doubt that sunny effectively used the glitch. Ok you could say that there's a possibility that the images in the first post of this topics are faked, but Sunny did confessed somewhere in this forums that he miner glitched, and the video provided by marko is not faked; that would be noticable if it was.
Btw, I found this:
Right well enoughs enough. Desr's got an invite up there for somewhere to goto voice his opinions and freely express himself, that offer isn't open for here, so desr and his game ruining fanboys can head off to the BA site if they wanna discuss this, it's getting no more airtime here. I only see further advertising of it if we keep this topic open so i am closing it, it's only acting as a desr attractant anyway, he's desperately seeking attention and he isn't going to get it here.
If you got idea's on how to prove the use of this, (optional/voluntary keylogger?) first consider if the proof could be faked to prove against an innocent player, if ye think it can't be, then PM me and we'll discuss it privately.
If he starts posting again, pm me with a link to the profile of the nick he is using and the topic/s that he is posting in, don't respond to his posts or topics as it just bumps his posts and they are more likely to be read.
Any nicks you see spreading the bug on the server, just printscreen it, upload to imageshak and pm me the link, if it checks out i will perm chat ban all their nicks, a few people already received the bans.
http://xwis.net/forums/index.php?sh...p;#entry1166276B/c they would instantly permanent ban people, regardless if they have a cheating history or not, who explained how to do the miner glitch, you could assume out of it that if someone somehow get proved that he used the miner glitch, he would atleast get a ban. However, very strangly they did not banned desr from the game (yes, desrlator is infact NOT banned); when someone asked why desr was not banned, this was riz his answer:
No real point, Desr doesn't play anymore and even if he did, he's ruined his fav game, i doubt if he does go online to play, that there will be many people willing to play him without using his own bug against him.
http://xwis.net/forums/index.php?sh...l=desr&st=0Ok, he might not played anymore, but they should have banned desr anyway to set an example for other people. This makes it VERY unclear how ST stands towards miner glitching: they perm. ban people who spread the information how to do it, but they do not take actions towards people who effectively use it, even though there was no doubt AT ALL that desrlator used miner glitching.
Edited by truefeel, 24 January 2010 - 06:48 PM.