109 replies to this topic

[TimmyJohn]

MAps are needed tho you dont seem to get the point.
balance is not an issue in most maps,
and like i said it sjust a rough draft so i respect your opinion,
but if you want to play the same maps over and over
go play ra2.

most maps are balanced.
the only thing that i would be worried about is certtain glitches on certain maps,
i dontk now if there are any, but if there is that would be a prob I.E. on snow valley and stuff.
that would be the only thing that would tip the balance in most of these maps.
MOST are balanced, otheres are there due to popular demand.

i've always been into quick matching and putting a million maps into qm makes me not want to qm as much. it will such to qm and not be able to play the same map at least 3 times. instead everyone will have to learn about 40 new maps that they might not even see in the ladder
its gonna be like 1% chance to see a specific map


keep in mind you hardly have any of the current maps in qm up there

its a good rotation of change but its way to large.

Edited by TimmyJohn, 23 March 2009 - 02:20 PM.

[AfC]

More maps = more diversity = more fun.

End of.


Edit: for all of you keep going on about how more maps is a stupid idea, it's ridiculous, if you wanna keep playing the same maps over the next 8 years then create FFG's as QM obviously isn't for you.


As for this idea put forward by Tony, I trust his judgement to be decent so I agree with it.

Edited by AfC, 23 March 2009 - 02:52 PM.

[ExpaNd]

learn more maps?
you can learn a map by playing it ONE TIME.

i used to cm on random maps, (maps randomly generated)

the only problem i see here is for people who use SET bos all the time on certain maps.
again, u only need to play a map once to honestly learn it, even observe the map once,
atleast for me anyways.

not to mention the mini map while ur loading will help you out ALOT
if you've never played the map,
thats all you really need lol, the only exception would be maps with derricks or Techs.

but after playing them once ull be fine.
=D
this is also why i havent put forth a full proposal yet bcuz we have to decide on one,

Edited by iAmaLeGeNd, 23 March 2009 - 02:53 PM.

[AfC]

learn more maps?
you can learn a map by playing it ONE TIME.

i used to cm on random maps, (maps randomly generated)

the only problem i see here is for people who use SET bos all the time on certain maps.
again, u only need to play a map once to honestly learn it, even observe the map once,
atleast for me anyways.

Yep we cm'd on maps like isle of oades etc.

Also we should do a trial like Marko has said, if we don't get on with the new maps then we can reduce them accordingly, we don't know if it works if we don't try it do we.

[ExpaNd]

Yep we cm'd on maps like isle of oades etc.

Also we should do a trial like Marko has said, if we don't get on with the new maps then we can reduce them accordingly, we don't know if it works if we don't try it do we.

that is the idea, Thats what i said.
the renovation can always be altered if it needs to be,

im just tired of ppl saying i dnt want new maps,
bcuz they are mostly one mappers,
or like i said ppl who use the same bos everygame no matter what.

[AfC]

This begs the idea that if people don't like to play a variety of maps then they can cm or ffg on the ones they want instead.

[ExpaNd]

This begs the idea that if people don't like to play a variety of maps then they can cm or ffg on the ones they want instead.

AGreed, i would respect them more if they had better Reasoning for what they did i.e.

what about old players coming back and not knowing all these maps

well if u think about it the OLDEST players on wol played almost all the maps,
so if they qmed right now theyd be more dissapointed then Happy =D


but yeah i aagree with u BRi, and i love you <3
no **** of course.

[TimmyJohn]

i don't remember ever seeing you in qm tony, all i've saw was you cming or talking in lobbies

Edited by TimmyJohn, 23 March 2009 - 09:22 PM.

[TimmyJohn]

there is already 30+ maps in the qm pool atm and you want to add almost every map you saw in the map listings. you even put noobmaps like happy trails and el dorado... this is quick matching not clown matching.

if for whatever reason the superweapons become random and this list sees the light of day i will play france and reign forever. half of these maps are very campish and that's not variety. its just an easier way for the noobs who get hof now, later on

[ExpaNd]

there is already 30+ maps in the qm pool atm and you want to add almost every map you saw in the map listings. you even put noobmaps like happy trails and el dorado... this is quick matching not clown matching.

if for whatever reason the superweapons become random and this list sees the light of day i will play france and reign forever. half of these maps are very campish and that's not variety. its just an easier way for the noobs who get hof now, later on

again like i said, i just put preps List of maps and put it here and wantedt o see what hte community says about maps, and also put my input, NOTE.
why do you think it says rough draft and NOT final proposal.

its so the community can come together and tell me what they want.
i agree that those maps should be removed,
but!
i used to qm, CMing was my main priority until brett left =\

is there really 30+ maps in qm right now?
please give me the map list.
cuz i honestly dont believe that :o
but heck im a QM noob! =D

[TimmyJohn]

again like i said, i just put preps List of maps and put it here and wantedt o see what hte community says about maps, and also put my input, NOTE.
why do you think it says rough draft and NOT final proposal.

its so the community can come together and tell me what they want.
i agree that those maps should be removed,
but!
i used to qm, CMing was my main priority until brett left =\

is there really 30+ maps in qm right now?
please give me the map list.
cuz i honestly dont believe that :o
but heck im a QM noob! =D

i know 31 so far

1The Alamo
2Blood Fued
3Deadman's Ridge
4Death Valley Girl
5Dune Patrol
6Hidden Valley
7A Hill Between
8Isle Of War
9May Day
10Meat Grinder
11New Heights
12Urban Rush
13Anytown America
14Country Swing
15Dry Heat
16Facedown
17Golden State Fwy
18Heartland
19Lake Blitzen
20Pinch Point
21Sahara Mirage
22Sovereign Land
23Montana DMZ
24Paris Revisited
25Snow Valley
26Offense Defense
27South Pacific
28Tanya's Training Grounds
29Tour Of Egypt
30Official Tournament A
31Official Tournament B

[ExpaNd]

i know 31 so far

1The Alamo
2Blood Fued
3Deadman's Ridge
4Death Valley Girl
5Dune Patrol
6Hidden Valley
7A Hill Between
8Isle Of War
9May Day
10Meat Grinder
11New Heights
12Urban Rush
13Anytown America
14Country Swing
15Dry Heat
16Facedown
17Golden State Fwy
18Heartland
19Lake Blitzen
20Pinch Point
21Sahara Mirage
22Sovereign Land
23Montana DMZ
24Paris Revisited
25Snow Valley
26Offense Defense
27South Pacific
28Tanya's Training Grounds
29Tour Of Egypt
30Official Tournament A
31Official Tournament B

haha funny thing is
more then half those maps are maps from ra2

adding morem aps would make it alot funner tho man.
the only downside to adding alot of maps is the fact that You wont be as familiar with a map as if you palyed it for a while.
and those type of people have always not wanted change in QM for that matter

either way, what is ur online nick it woudl be better if we tlaked ingame= D

[TimmyJohn]

i can hope on evildead; eviidead if you will

Edited by TimmyJohn, 24 March 2009 - 12:41 AM.

[TimmyJohn]

btw 13 out of 31 of those maps are from ra2

[t3h J3w]

That's right Timmy. It's outrageous and it's only a few nut cases who want to do this. Bring it down to a community poll like the one for random sups which stayed up for a year before it was acted upon.

[Crisis]

there's more than 31 maps lol
there's probably 40 now because they added a lot of other maps like stormy weather, alaskan oil spill depth charge, etc etc

[TimmyJohn]

there's more than 31 maps lol
there's probably 40 now because they added a lot of other maps like stormy weather, alaskan oil spill depth charge, etc etc

oh!!! i thought it was that map package patch (non-official) but i uninstalled it and the maps still showed up! lol
thank you for solving the mystery haha

[ExpaNd]

btw 13 out of 31 of those maps are from ra2

umm no?
lol
ur missing some maps!

haha >.<

That's right Timmy. It's outrageous and it's only a few nut cases who want to do this. Bring it down to a community poll like the one for random sups which stayed up for a year before it was acted upon.

your reasoning for not putting more maps in qm is not good,

"bcuz older players will be mad there are more maps in qm now"
"it will take players longer to learn these maps"

QM is for competitive players, so if you dont want to learn maps dont qm.

i will say this AGAIN.
people like you stick to something even if you know its wrong,
like i said i would respect you more if you gave me bette reasoning,
but the reasons you have given me are the circumstances that are put out there for competitive play anyways.

i will fix alot of errors in this proposal and present what i think should be the final proposal, and then im done,
now i see what prep meant, this is outrageous.

i finally understand the, "you cant teach an old dog new tricks" metaphor.

[willy]

sounds good, 17 of those maps listed were ra2 maps (over half)

[ExpaNd]

sounds good, 17 of those maps listed were ra2 maps (over half)

i know,
but no offense to hte inexperienced players but
can you please help me explain to these guys that a GOOD yuri player cant be beaten on Blood feud or dune patrol by a sov?

lol

ya, like isaid ill try to help!
but in order for me to help, they need to help!

[TimmyJohn]

i have one of the best SvY in the game you can't change my mind
edit:the 13 out of 31 maps was before i knew others were added
you could ask any good yuri i played when i was in prime

Edited by TimmyJohn, 24 March 2009 - 05:02 AM.

[ExpaNd]

i have one of the best SvY in the game you can't change my mind
edit:the 13 out of 31 maps was before i knew others were added
you could ask any good yuri i played when i was in prime

hes saying that 17 maps are ra2 maps from the list you posted.
learn what maps are in ra2!

ya, and i have one of the best Svy in the game,

the best sVy i have to give it to sunny tho.


please tell me the good yuri players you beat on blood fued with a connie rush PLEASE

cuz ur probably thinking about noobs who thought they were good like

oliverrr, badschaap, Trunkz, etc all those guys.

they werent the worst, but they didnt know how to play right

Thats like me saying YOU CAN OWN A SOV PLAYER ON BLOOD FUED WITH A ROCKY RUSH

your tactics will NEVER work vs a good player end of disccusion i dont care how good you are.

connies do NOTHING to 2 well placed bunkers
they can get radar and grind/sell mcv to make your life even worse.
and if they want to be really nasty they dont even have to sell mcv and just camp hard and make ur life miserable.

if you want i can get sunny to come on yr and play you on BF, and PLEASE PLEASE show me how to own a yuri with a connie rush.

Edited by iAmaLeGeNd, 24 March 2009 - 05:32 AM.

[TimmyJohn]

i've beaten sunny plenty lol

[ExpaNd]

i've beaten sunny plenty lol

so have i, but thats not what im asking.

you havent beat him with a connie rush on DP or BF

and i know that for a fact lol.

[TimmyJohn]

i've also played with reano many many times but i tested my allied vs yuri with him. and i played him on bf and won

i didnt use a con rush lol

i start attacking with my first tank and make a flack as soon as soon as he makes a brute gg

Edited by TimmyJohn, 24 March 2009 - 05:37 AM.