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Posted 31 December 2008 - 11:50 AM

Here you will find all the necessary info for making your own proper build order. Like usual, choices are heavily subject to debate, which is fine; all build orders have their own strengths and weaknesses. The build orders you see below are the ones I am most comfortable with.

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Edited by Pizzaguru, 29 July 2010 - 12:58 PM.


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Posted 31 December 2008 - 11:52 AM

- Alaskan Oil Spill -
All positions

Tesla reactor
Barracks - 2x attack dog , 3-4x engineer (oil derricks)
Ore refinery(@gems)
Naval shipyard - 2x amphibious transport (take oils then scout)
War factory - 1x terror drone(anti-scout), 2x war miner , 3x flak track , rhino tanks
Tesla reactor
Radar
Battle Lab - 2x dreadnought , kirov airship(kill oils), iron curtain & nuke silo
Naval shipyard(@opponent) - primary
Nuclear reactor
Ore refinery

Extra: Scout with transports then hope you succed with dual dreads. The build order is almost the same as depth charge but only 3 engies for oils and only 1 kirov(no extra war). If no supers, mass squids in sov vs sov. Place yuri's on shoreline if opponent plans to enter land with transports. I think it might be good to make nuke before IC aswell but I like to put mcv in transport and move to the extra island for new ore(yuri and flacks in transport too) then my iron curtain can remove squids from transports. Try to kill(with kirov) as many of his oils possible and protect your own, these oil get very important later in the game.
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Screenshots: none

Edited by PizzaGuru, 15 April 2009 - 09:03 PM.


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Posted 31 December 2008 - 01:55 PM

- Arctic Circle -
Corner positions

Tesla reactor
Barracks - engineer, 3x attack dog(2protect/1scout), 3x engineer
Ore refinery(@gems)
War factory(@oil) - ...x rhino tank
Ore refinery(@gems) - sell one
War factory(@close to opoonent) - primairy
War factory(@close to opoonent)
Ore refinery - sell one
Tech or more war factories

Extra: Tech if his oils are still alive after mass tank prodution(make a dreadnought in the middle lake).
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Edited by PizzaGuru, 15 April 2009 - 09:36 PM.


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Posted 31 December 2008 - 02:21 PM

- City Under Siege -
All positions

Tesla reactor
Barracks - attack dog, 3x conscript(garrison bunkers), 3x engineer, 3x conscript
Ore refinery(@gems)
War factory - 1x war miner, ...x rhino tank
Ore refinery(@gems) - sell one
Ore refinery(@ore)
Tesla reactor
War factory
Radar
Ore refinery
Battle lab

Extra: Kill the closest gates then take a bunker on his side so you can scout. Wall your oil derricks. I tech and hope for supers but you can go more warfactories too I think. When you have a refinery and miners on each ore field, its easier to move mcv then to stretch.
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Edited by PizzaGuru, 15 April 2009 - 09:03 PM.


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Posted 31 December 2008 - 02:59 PM

- Cold War -
Coming soon

Edited by PizzaGuru, 31 December 2008 - 03:15 PM.


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Posted 31 December 2008 - 03:14 PM

- Country Swing -
All positions

Tesla reactor
Barracks - 3x attack dog(anti-scout then scout)
Ore refinery
War factory - 3x war miner, ...x rhino tank
Ore refinery - sell one
Ore refinery - Wait before building till 3rd miner from war is halfway done, (Sell one)
Tesla reactor (not if you sold 2 refineries)
War factory
War factory
Ore refinery (@2nd ore patch) - move some empty miners to the new ore
Ore refinery
more war factories

Extra: You want to go 1 more miner from war factory then opponent(3max), not more or you get behind on tanks too much. Then 2nd and 3rd war on 6 miners.
Replays: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6rYwI1BznY
Screenshots: none

Edited by PizzaGuru, 15 April 2009 - 09:06 PM.


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Posted 31 December 2008 - 03:31 PM

- DC Uprising -
Top left & Bottom right positions

Tesla reactor
Barracks - engineer, 2x attack dog(scout), 2x conscript
Ore refinery
War factory (@airport/outpost) - ...x rhino tank
Ore refinery
Barrack
Sell MCV

Extra: Maybe this BO works as TR also?
Replays: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-08JvPehtI0
Screenshots: Coming soon

Edited by PizzaGuru, 21 January 2009 - 03:05 PM.


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Posted 31 December 2008 - 04:22 PM

- DEFCON 6 -
All positions

Tesla reactor
Barracks - 4x attack dog(scout)
Ore refinery - miner to gems
Soviet war factory - ...x rhino tank

Move down

Ore refinery(@down)
Sell MCV

Extra: Top and bottom right spot can stretch down and don't have to move.
Replays: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1iO7vUK3_j0
Screenshots: none

Edited by PizzaGuru, 11 January 2009 - 08:53 AM.


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Posted 31 December 2008 - 04:50 PM

- Depth Charge -
All positions

Tesla reactor
Barracks - 2x attack dog , 5x engineer (oil derricks)
Ore refinery(@gems)
Naval shipyard - 2x amphibious transport (take oils)
War factory - 2x war miner , 3x flak track , rhino tanks
Tesla reactor
Radar
Battle Lab - 2x dreadnought , 2x kirov airship
War factory (@oils) - primary
Naval shipyard(@opponent) - primary
Nuclear reactor
Ore refinery

Extra: Scout with transports then use them to distract his flacktracks when your dread starts shooting. Watch Marko do this BO vs Tim, he didn't make 2nd transport and an extra engi for the oil next to him. This replay is perfect example of how this Build order works.
Replays: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOBtzW2-3lM
Screenshots: none

Edited by PizzaGuru, 03 January 2009 - 05:57 PM.


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Posted 31 December 2008 - 05:23 PM

- Golden State Fwy -
All positions

Tesla reactor
Barracks - engineer(oil), 3x attack dog , engineer (oil), 3x conscript
Ore refinery(@gems/oil)
War factory - ...x rhino tanks
Ore refinery(@gems/oil)
Tesla reactor(@northern/southern oil)
Ore refinery(@ore)
War factory(@northern/southern oil)
Ore refinery(@gems)
War factory

Extra: First and second refs on each gem patches near left or right oil, third ref on nothern or southern gems from oil. The two bottom positions can skip 3rd ref but then your economie is more fragile.
Replays: n/a
Screenshots: Coming soon

Edited by Pizzaguru, 23 October 2009 - 10:07 PM.


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Posted 31 December 2008 - 06:00 PM

- Hammer and Sickle -
Coming soon

Edited by PizzaGuru, 31 December 2008 - 06:10 PM.


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Posted 31 December 2008 - 06:10 PM

- Heartland -
All positions

Tesla reactor
Barracks - engineer, 3x attack dog, 3x conscript(if BL/TR)
Ore refinery
War factory - 2x war miner, ...x rhino tank
Ore refinery
Ore refinery - sell one
Tesla reactor(@oil)
War factory
War factory
Ore refinery

Extra: If you see your opponent goes straight tanks, make only 1 miner from wf. After 3rd ref start the stretch from oil to new ore.
Replays: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DA9rRBeqfiw
Screenshots: 6
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Edited by PizzaGuru, 15 April 2009 - 09:37 PM.


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Posted 31 December 2008 - 06:30 PM

- Isle of War -
All positions

Tesla reactor
Barracks - 3x attack dog (1scout/1anti/1lure)
Ore refinery
War factory - 1x(or 2x) war miner, ...x rhino tank
Ore refinery

Move MCV

Ore refinery - sell one & bring a miner
Tesla reactor
Radar
Battle lab
Nuclear reactor
Naval shipyard


Extra notes: Position one of your dogs on the bridge above the valley to lure the dogs that are anti-scouting you. His dog will run through the valley and get eaten by your anti-scouting dogs. Then your dog can scout your opponent safely. Repair the bridge if you want to attack. If your opponent is mining the ore next to the cliff try and kill some miners from above. It's good to build 2 miners from warfactory if your scout was succesful and you see you opponent not have any tanks after you first miner is done. If you only build 1 miner from war you will have to pause tanks or you'll run out of cash.
Replays: none
Screenshots: Coming soon

Edited by PizzaGuru, 15 April 2009 - 09:13 PM.


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Posted 31 December 2008 - 09:02 PM

- Lake Blitzen -
Top right position

Tesla reactor
Barracks - 1x engineer(oil derrick), 3x attack dog(2scout/1protect), 3x engineer
Ore refinery(@gems)
Naval shipyard - amphibious transport(take oils & hospital)
War factory(@hospital) - war miner, ...x rhino tank
Ore refinery(@gems) - sell one
Tesla reactor
Radar
Battle lab - dreadnought, giant squid
Naval shipyard(@opponent) - sell one
Nuclear reactor
Ore refinery(@ore)

Extra:
Replays: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ya8JQP8WOH8
Screenshots: none

Top Left(3) and Bottom Right(1) positions

Tesla reactor
Barracks - 3x attack dog(Anti-scout then scout), 2x engineer(oil & hospital)

Move MCV to gems

Ore refinery(@gems)
War factory(@hospital) - ...x rhino tank
Ore refinery - sell one
Tesla reactor
Radar
Battle lab - kirov airship
Naval shipyard - dreadnought, gaint squid
Nuclear reactor
Ore refinery(@ore)

Extra: Not a very common build order but it sure owns.
Replays: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVIcUzpuSCA & http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GC4QuC0J-EU
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Bottom Left position

Tesla reactor
Barracks - 1x engineer, 3x attack dog(scout/anitscout), 4x engineer(oils & airfield & hospital)
Ore refinery(@ore)
Naval shipyard - amphibious transport
War factory - 1x war miner(rally to gems), ...x rhino tank
Ore refinery(@gems) - sell one
Tesla reactor
Radar
Battle lab
Naval shipyard - gaint squid
Nuclear reactor
Ore refinery


Extra: Bad starting position since gems are much further away then your opponent who is top right. If the game lasts long this spot is playable if you play greedy and expand(stretch) to new orefields before your opponent does.
Replays: none
Screenshots: none

Edited by PizzaGuru, 15 April 2009 - 09:28 PM.


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Posted 31 December 2008 - 09:21 PM

- Malibu Cliffs -
This map has to many different positions. Just go 2 miners from war, 2nd and 3rd war on 6 miners (like CS and SV) and and move MCV to new ore when you have a service depot

Edited by PizzaGuru, 11 January 2009 - 09:19 AM.


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Posted 31 December 2008 - 10:01 PM

- May Day -
All positions

Tesla reactor
Barracks - engineer, 3x attack dog, 8x engineer, 5x conscript
Ore refinery
War factory - war miner, 3-4x rhino tank, kirov, flacktracks/rhinos
Tesla reactor
Radar - 2x Desolator
Battle lab - Flack cannon, kirov airship
Naval shipyard - dreadnought/squid, (flack boats)
Naval shipyard
Nuclear reactor

Extra: Bottom spot has to place a sentry at the wall surrounding oils and shoot one pillar to get oils fast. If you're bottom spot you can try an ivan flacktrack to blow up oil derricks. Place deso's strategicly to kill squids and top spot one at tl oils. You make two naval shipyard so your opponent makes a squid at the wrong lake, then your deso's and naval shipyard block it from reaching your dread. Watch the crane of his naval shipyard to see if he has made a squid.
Replays: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcAL9KPSc3I
Screenshots: 4
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Edited by PizzaGuru, 15 April 2009 - 09:29 PM.


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Posted 31 December 2008 - 10:31 PM

- Montana DMZ -
Top Right(3) & Bottom Right(4) position

Tesla reactor
Barracks - engineer, 3x attack dog(protect/scout), 3x conscript
Ore refinery(@gems)
War factory(@airfield) - war miner, ...x rhino tank
Ore refinery(@gems/airfield)
Tesla reactor
War factory
Ore refinery(@ore)
War factory

Move MCV to Bottom Right or Top Right position

Ore refinery(@corner/gems)
more warfactories

Extra: Because these spots get to paradrop fast you can have an early paradrop which is why many people like to make 0 miners and pressure.
Replays: none
Screenshots: none

Top Left(2) & Bottom Left(1) position

Tesla reactor
Barracks - 3x attack dog(protect/scout), 4x conscript
Ore refinery(@gems)
War factory - war miner, ...x rhino tank

Move MCV to middle gems

Ore refinery(@gems)
Tesla reactor
War factory
Ore refinery(@ore)
War factory
Ore refinery(@ore) - sell first ref
more warfactories

Extra:
Replays: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TS0w_2jZGF0 & http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fP6ozQsbQVQ
Screenshots: none

Edited by PizzaGuru, 05 January 2009 - 07:02 PM.


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Posted 31 December 2008 - 10:44 PM

- Official Tournament Map A -
All positions

Tesla reactor
Barracks - conscript, 3x attack dog(protect/scout), conscript, engineer
Ore refinery
War factory - ...x rhino tank
Ore refinery
Ore refinery
Tesla reactor
Radar
Battle lab
Naval shipyard - sell gem ref - dreadnought

Extra: When you garrison the hut near your oil, place a dog at the cliff above then it will lure your opponents dogs past it and you have a safe passage with your engie
Replays: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymUe0YZxtlk & http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Coo_bCm3W5I
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Edited by PizzaGuru, 15 April 2009 - 09:30 PM.


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Posted 31 December 2008 - 11:34 PM

- Official Tournament Map B -
All positions

Tesla reactor
Barracks - engineer, 3x attack dog(2protect 1scout), conscript(hut), 2x engineer
Ore refinery
War factory - 1x war miner, ...x rhino tank
Ore refinery - sell one
War factory
Tesla reactor
Radar
Battle lab
Naval shipyard(stretched from shore with radar) - giant squid(or dread if you don't see opponent have a battlelab/navalyard)
Ore refinery - sell one
Nuclear reactor

Extra: You stand a better chance of winning with a no eat agreement. It's best to stretch your naval from shore with a radar, this way you can save some time since only miners can hit it. This way you won't cause stalement but still own with dread. Put miners in a transport to mine gems in corner then reutrn and unload them at refinery.
Recorded games: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PL3JVX8_5PI & http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlnxYMr6yPM & http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_CvpvpxRZc
Screenshots: none

Edited by PizzaGuru, 08 April 2009 - 10:25 PM.


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Posted 01 January 2009 - 12:07 AM

- Paris Revisited -
Top position

Tesla reactor
Barracks - engineer, 3x attack dog(protect then scout), engineer
Ore refinery
War factory - 1x war miner(gems), ...x rhino tank
Ore refinery(ore)
Ore refinery(war) - sell one
Tesla reactor
Barracks
Ore refinery(gems)

Move MCV to left

Tesla reactor
War factory
War factory
Ore refinery

Extra: Kill the building with a sentry as seen in first screenshot so your miner does not get stuck.
Recorded games:
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Edited by Pizzaguru, 23 October 2009 - 10:11 PM.


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Posted 01 January 2009 - 12:31 AM

- Pinch Point -
All positions

Tesla reactor
Barracks - 2x attack dog
Ore refinery
War factory - 2x war miner, ...x rhino tank
Ore refinery

Move MCV to mid and deploy then place a barrack
Move to gems north and deploy


Tesla reactor - bring a miner
Ore refinery
Ore refinery - sell one & bring a miner
War factory

Move MCV to new ore

Ore refinery
War factory

Extra: Don't place a sentry or have one on ready, control your miners and make only 2 dogs for scouting then you shouldn't run low on money.
Replays: None
Screenshots: 4
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Edited by PizzaGuru, 15 April 2009 - 09:30 PM.


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Posted 01 January 2009 - 12:48 AM

- Snow Valley -
All positions

Tesla reactor
Barracks - 5x attack dog(3scout/2anti-scout)
Ore refinery
War factory - 2x war miner, ...x rhino tank
Ore refinery(@corner)

Move MCV down (TL can stretch down)

Tesla reactor
Ore refinery
Ore refinery - sell one
War factory

Move mcv gems on other spot

Ore refinery(@gems) - bring extra miner

Extra: If you see your opponent go 2 miners from war. If your opponent makes a drone to prevent you from moving MCV, make powerplant + depot before moving.
Replays: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21l3luNJ__M
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Edited by PizzaGuru, 16 April 2009 - 10:28 PM.


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Posted 01 January 2009 - 01:34 AM

- South Pacific -
Coming soon

Edited by PizzaGuru, 01 January 2009 - 12:38 PM.


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Posted 01 January 2009 - 12:38 PM

- Sovereign Land -
All positions

Tesla reactor
Barracks - 1x engineer, 3xattack dog(2scout/1protect), 1x engineer, 5x conscript (garrison buildings in middle)
Ore refinery
War factory(@oils) - 1x war miner, ...x rhino tank
Ore refinery(@oils)
Ore refinery(@oils)
Tesla reactor
Radar - crazy ivan to blow up your bridge
Barracks
Ore refinery(@gems) stretched down with power, radar, barrack (kill trees)
Tesla reactor
Battle lab
Nuclear reactor
Naval shipyard - dreadnought, giant squid

Extra: If your opponent moves, dont make a miner from war but make straight tanks or tank + drone then kill his miner. If killing the miner of a player moving MCV to gems fails you'll probably lose.
Replays: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTn1OGcTeMY
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Edited by Pizzaguru, 23 October 2009 - 10:13 PM.


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Posted 01 January 2009 - 01:10 PM

- Stormy Weather -
All positions

Tesla reactor
Barracks - 1x engineer(corner oil), 3x attack dog(1 to corner, 2 to mid), 1x engineer(mid oil), 3-5 conscripts to hut near oil in corner
Ore refinery(@corner gems)
War factory - ...x rhino tank
Ore refinery(@corner gems) - sell one
Ore refinery(@ore)
Tesla reactor
War factory
Ore refinery(@other ore) - Bring miners from gems
War factory
Tech

Extra: You can move mcv to new ore or strech. Build 2nd warfactory at oil in corner if your opponent captures tech outpost in the middle so you can send sneaky splits by primairy'ing it.
Replays: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBRs-TpmhKw & http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZpHniPTLd8
Screenshots: none

Edited by Pizzaguru, 23 October 2009 - 10:17 PM.



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